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The Holodomor: Stalin’s Genocidal Famine that Starved Millions in the 1930s
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Posted on 03/06/2022 4:39:39 PM PST by artichokegrower

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To: artichokegrower

Overreact much?

Such nonsense

But still, you’re welcome to grab a gun and a plane ticket and go help :)


21 posted on 03/06/2022 5:06:47 PM PST by dp0622 (Tried a coup, a fake tax story, tramp slander, Russia nonsense, impeachment and a virus. They lost.)
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To: Mount Athos

Whoa there pilgrim, slow down there! Yes, I knew there were two revolutions in 1917. I knew there was a civil war. I even knew about American intervention in Siberia in 1918.

The Russian Soviet Republic was the dominant entity in the USSR. Stalin ran that state, and in turn the whole country. He wasn’t replacing the Ukrainian language in schools with Georgian.


22 posted on 03/06/2022 5:07:24 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Celtic Conservative

Wealthy British landowners lavished themselves whilst Irish tenants starved to death. In saying all this. I condemn the Soviet commies for the famine in Ukraine. In every conversatuon I have with a commie apologist I raise the famaine as an example of communist brutality whilst pointing out commies in the west glossed over it or down played it. But if the West is going to get mushroomed over past injustices and current occupstions they could at least call on their member states to end their own occupations


23 posted on 03/06/2022 5:08:46 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: artichokegrower

Time Ghost just put out an excellent episode about The Holodomor

Genocide in Ukraine: The Holodomor | Into Context | War in Ukraine 01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1JI9_WNr1Q


24 posted on 03/06/2022 5:10:02 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

It’s ok.
You’re not the only one on FR who doesn’t know history.


25 posted on 03/06/2022 5:14:54 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Long Jon No Silver
Does anyone remember that in America after the Civil War the government policy of wiping out plains Indians in the buffalo they depended on? Yeah - that happened.
Plains Indians relied on bison for food and housing, and the wild buffalo was seen as a sacred animal. At the time,between 30 and 60 million buffalo are thought to have roamed the plains—and Sherman knew that if the buffalo went, so would Native Americans. “The government realized that as long as this food source [and] key cultural element was there,” anthropologist and Native American studies professor S. Neyooxet GreymorningtoldIndian Country Today, “it would have difficulty getting Indians onto reservations.”

https://www.history.com/news/shermans-war-on-native-americans

26 posted on 03/06/2022 5:16:14 PM PST by WMarshal ("No war for communism"What a fan of the swap you are)
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To: MSF BU

The pictures don’t lie


27 posted on 03/06/2022 5:16:41 PM PST by artichokegrower (I )
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To: Mount Athos

Yes, I know history. And I never said all Russians were guilty of communist crimes. My advice is to try decaf tomorrow.


28 posted on 03/06/2022 5:16:54 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: artichokegrower

If the West hadn’t isolated the Soviet Union over its embracing of communism it wouldn’t have happened.


29 posted on 03/06/2022 5:17:46 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: WMarshal

I have seen pictures of Buffalo bones piled so high i could not believe it.


30 posted on 03/06/2022 5:18:19 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood
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To: Mount Athos

Catherine the Great wasn’t Russian either, but her forces were still the RUSSIAN army.


31 posted on 03/06/2022 5:26:34 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: WMarshal

No doubt all these injustices occured and carried out by many pointing fingers at Russia. That’s not to say a certain paralysis of action should always be the result. The Nazis pointed to the treatment of Africans in the U.S and Africa itself in its’ propaganda war. They had a point. But the point wasn’t big enough to allow them to take over all of Europe and beyond unchallenged. Shouid this be the case with Russia? In this case the cure could be worse than the disease. And if Ukraine has to be let go of to avoid hundreds or billions of dead, than that’s just the sad reality


32 posted on 03/06/2022 5:28:15 PM PST by Long Jon No Silver
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I don’t blame you for being ignorant of history.

Anyone who disobeyed Stalin was be disappeared.

Not only themselves, but their entire family.

In reality, the ethnic Russians fought fiercely against the communists as “white russians”. There was a civil war.
The communists who overthrew and took over the country overwhelmingly were not ethnic Russians. They hated Russians. They hated Christians. They killed both without remorse. The communists had massive foreign support and funding to overthrow the country.

But ignorant people like yourself want to place collective blame on Russia and Russians for what the communists did.

Enjoy your great reset.


33 posted on 03/06/2022 5:30:59 PM PST by Mount Athos
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"If the West hadn’t isolated the Soviet Union over its embracing of communism it wouldn’t have happened."

The Great Terror occurred after the USA recognized the Soviet Union. I assume other countries had prior to that. The West was hesitant to embrace them since the mass murder started almost from the start when the Bolsheviks took over.

Remember the mass starvation that occurred in 1921/22, all courtesy of the Bolsheviks? The USA provided massive famine relief that prevented up to 10 million people from starving to death. Seems that they were embraced almost from the beginning with the humanitarian relief.
34 posted on 03/06/2022 5:32:22 PM PST by KamperKen (u)
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To: dp0622
But still, you’re welcome to grab a gun and a plane ticket and go help :)

Or, if you're anti-abortion, adopt a few unwanted babies.

35 posted on 03/06/2022 5:32:29 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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To: Mount Athos

I’m not ignorant of history. You however are going off on tangents.


36 posted on 03/06/2022 5:32:31 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Russia is not the only country that has committed acts of genocide and cultural extermination. The federal government of the United States of America in the late 1800s purposely wiped out the Great Plains Indian culture and forced them into a system of reservations and government dependency that exists to this very day.

Below are historical photographs documenting the industrial scale of the slaughter of 30 to 60 million American bison in order to eliminate the food supply of the Great Plains Indians and force the Native Americans onto military controlled reservations by eliminating their wild food source and the gutting culture of self-sufficiency by hunting.


37 posted on 03/06/2022 5:35:52 PM PST by WMarshal ("No war for communism"What a fan of the swap you are)
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To: CaptainCarrollton

Well put!


38 posted on 03/06/2022 5:44:40 PM PST by CletusVanDamme (Well I'm all broken up about that man's rights...)
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39 posted on 03/06/2022 5:45:20 PM PST by bitt ( <img src=' 'width=50%>)
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To: Mount Athos
You know Stalin wasn’t Russian right?

Let me guess, he was the 32nd President of the United States?

Oh, he wasn't. Who knew he was secretary-general of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1922 to 1953 and premier of the Soviet state from 1941 to 1953.

Stalin was born in the Russian colony of Georgia, which is not the same Georgia where Atlanta is located.

Source

40 posted on 03/06/2022 5:46:31 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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