Posted on 03/05/2022 11:35:44 AM PST by TigerLikesRoosterNew
How cheap Chinese tires might explain Russia's 'stalled' 40-mile-long military convoy in Ukraine
MARCH 3, 2022
PETER WEBER
As the eighth day of Russia's invasion of Ukraine began Thursday morning, Russian forces appeared to have gained tactical control of their first city, the southern port city of Kherson, but Ukraine is still holding out in Mariupol, Kharkiv, and Chernihiv, despite heavy shelling. Deaths are mounting on both sides.
Big explosions were heard in Kyiv overnight, but according to the British Defense Ministry's Thursday morning update, the main body of the 40-mile-long Russian military convoy advancing on the capital remains nearly 20 miles from the city center, "having been delayed by staunch Ukrainian resistance, mechanical breakdown, and congestion. The column has made little discernible progress in over three days."
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Trent Telenko, a retired Pentagon staff specialist and military history blogger, suggests another big reason may be Russia's tires, as he explained in a long, illustrated Twitter thread based on photos of deserted Russian Pantsir-S1 wheeled gun-missile systems and his own experience as a U.S. Army vehicle auditor. "When you leave military truck tires in one place for months on end," the sidewalls get brittle in the sun and fail like the tires on the Pantsir-SR, he wrote. "No one exercised that vehicle for one year."
Karl Muth, an economist, government adviser, and self-described "tire expert," jumped in, agreeing with Telenko but adding some details about the tires.
Karl T. Muth @KarlMuthReplying to @Noahpinion
Bit of a tire expert here. Those aren't Soviet-era heavy truck radials. Chinese military tires, and I believe specifically the Yellow Sea YS20. This is a tire I first encountered in Somalia and Sudan; it's a bad Chinese copy of the excellent Michelin XZL military tire design.
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China quality is definitely all over the spectrum.
A lot depends on who is operating the factory.
They build excellent stuff and terrible stuff.
It is too bad that Ukraine doesn’t have the wherewithal to effectively attack this parked convoy.
Especially if your tank crews get some training in the process.
Russians and chinese both get black eyes.
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Russian get black eyes perhaps, but the Chinese definitely made a $$ killing.
Dago through mud, dago through snow, and when dago flat, dago “wop, wop, wop.”
That’s as old as the hills, and twice as dusty. (But so’s the Grand Canyon, and that’s still good for a crack.)
Or , excerpt from this article:
https://patrickarmstrong.ca/
Russia Observer
RUSSIA UKRAINE 2
Snip..."At the moment they are readying for the next phase. The long column that so obsessed the “experts” on CNN is the preparation for the next phase. And that is this: “You didn’t get the hint, so now we have to hit you”. The fact that the column has been sitting there indicates that the Russians know they have complete air superiority. Secondly it is a message to the Ukrainian armed forces that it’s over, give up. (And one should never forget that the Russians/Soviets have always been the best at strategic deception, so who knows what’s actually there versus what the images show?)
As far as I can see they’ve created three cauldrons (encirclements). Probably the most important one is the one around Mariupol where the main concentration of Azov, the principal nazi force, is. Another is being established around the main concentration of the Ukrainian Armed Forces facing LDPR. And there appears to be another developing to the east of Kiev. A super cauldron of all three is visible. The nazis will be exterminated; the ordinary Ukrainian soldier will be allowed to go home. The nightmare question is how many ordinary Ukrainians will be free to choose. ...snip"
(Article has discussion of what Russia wants; Capitulation without extended street battles. go to link)
Snip...."We are seeing the collapse of post Cold War triumphalism, “end of history”, “unilateralism” and all the rest of it. Reality is biting, and biting hard. All you have to do is watch CNN’s parade of talking heads and “experts” speculating about how crazy Putin is: they don’t understand, therefore he must be nuts. For the West, as it has been, it’s over. The confusion, the bullshit, the boasting, the hysteria, the bans: the West has nothing left in the locker. Pour Russian vodka down the toilet, fire a singer and director, change the name of a drink or a salad, ban cats or trees, sanction a Russian plutocrat and steal his yacht, wear a blue and yellow t-shirt. Pathetic. And don’t, under any circumstances, allow a Russian outlet to tempt the sheeple with “disinformation”. Just like the USSR but stupider. And who thought stupider was even possible?" ...more at link.
(Clinton, Obama, Biden. Architects of American Decline that have brought us to this point. (Writer: "I was an analyst in the Canadian Department of National Defence specialising in the USSR/Russia. I started in the time of Chernenko and watched the whole thing develop.
I was a Counsellor in the Canadian Embassy in Moscow 1993-1996.
I retired in May 2008 and have been writing on Russia and related subjects on the Net ever since." Snip.
(Before the reign of Trudy the Red.) Another viewpoint.
I had Michelins mfg in Poland as OEM on my Canadian built Chevy Equinox.
Best tires I’ve ever had. Super in the rain and snow, but the tread life was fantastic.
The term in China for cheap knock off or quality of an extremely low quality is tofu drang.
The tires are tofu drang.......... made from tofu
It was probably in the budget, but you know how that goes.
I doubt it, they would only be able to run at low speed without overheating.
You are living in cloud cuckooland.
Read this and weep;
China Hypersonic Missile Test Showed Unprecedented Capability: FT
Need a graphic of the bwahaha guy pointing at China tires.
I read somewhere that the Russian pilots get about 1/3 the seat time per year of US pilots. That sounds like a problem too.
They work. Had one blow out on the Howard Frankenstein.
5.56mm
Or this might explain it:
They are going to systematically cut off power and supplies to key areas and establish supply corridors. Then, they will make life unlivable for civilian populations who will leave. Then, and only then, they will get the convoy moving and take out Kyiv.
Nah, the MSM has it right. The convoy is stalled and the superior Russian forces are self-destructing while the Ukrainians are getting stronger over day even though they are cut off from supplies and fuel and power and food and and and.
Let’s stop pretending. The sooner this goes asymmetrical, the better for the Ukrainians.
It is always a few percent which will determine the final outcome. Last I heard, iphone’s display screen is made in S. Korea.
Yep, but the consumer electronics they make for Western markets needs to meet Western build and QC acceptance standards.
Isn't it ironic that Capitalism is required for Communists to make decent products ?
What do you mean by asymmetrical?
I think I heard it in ‘77 or ‘78..Italian guy in high school told it.
Just like post WW2 when Japanese items were poorly regarded and Deming and Juran taught them how to do quality. #LEXUS
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