[SecondAmendment]

>Are these the same Chinese who make the super high quality iphones, iPads etc etc which Americans just love?

Yep, but the consumer electronics they make for Western markets needs to meet Western build and QC acceptance standards.

Isn't it ironic that Capitalism is required for Communists to make decent products ?

[nascarnation]

Just like post WW2 when Japanese items were poorly regarded and Deming and Juran taught them how to do quality. #LEXUS