Posted on 03/03/2022 7:45:17 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Vladimir Putin wants to seize all of Ukraine and "worse is to come" during the conflict, the French president has warned.
Emmanuel Macron held talks with Mr Putin over the phone this afternoon in a bid to ease tensions between Russia and the West.
According to French officials, Mr Macron told the Russian leader that he was making a "major mistake" in Ukraine, adding: "You are lying to yourself".
Following the call, Mr Macron believes "worse is to come" in the unfolding humanitarian crisis and that Mr Putin wants to seize the entire country, according to an aide.
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Imperialism even
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Well, it’s not quite the whole world. China and India abstained from the vote at the UN. China for reasons we all know. India is dependent on Russia for weapons, and, a lot of that is our own fault. However, I wonder if we should make India an offer they can’t refuse.
Oh, good God. Yanukovitch’ election was as valid as Biden’s.
Taking control of Ukraine to make it a buffer zone? I wonder what the Poles think about that? They fought the Germans in WW II for revenge, but when it comes to the Russians they’ll do it for pleasure.
Well... It did take Hitler a good while to get very far with that. Mass killing of Jews began following the Nazi invasion of the Soviet Union. That was several invasions / actions into the timeline. Putin may or may not be on a roughly similar schedule.
However, Putin has not called out a race as his enemies. Closest would be his “thing” about calling various enemies “Nazis”, even when most clearly are not.
An interesting comparison will be “degree of city levelling”. Generally, when Nazi Germany went in, they had things running again quickly, to their own purposes of course, including extra features as discussed above. :-(
It’s not just man involved in subjugation of the world. Satan’s aim has always been to control the world in order to show that he can run things on principles that are different from God’s.
He’s the real architect of what is happening. He’s just found men who are willing to be used to create his world in exchange for worldly power, pleasure, and control.
That’s good stuff. Links like that are a good part of the reason I don’t give up on this site.
While certainly not all encompassing (would probably require multiple college level courses!) those vids helped me better “connect” and put into context some of the history “pieces”.
Thanks!
PUTIN made the threat and it's not even new. The difference is that before his aggressions were smaller scale.
But if significantly attacked, IMO, something parallel to this applies:
Quark : "Let me tell you something about hewmons, nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time, and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people will become as nasty and violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes. You know I'm right, don't you? Well? Aren't you going to say something? "
Nog : "I feel sorry for the Jem'Hadar."
Not a bad point.
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Invading the Baltic states or Poland is an attack on NATO, so would Putin want to risk the consequences of that? There would then be no reason for NATO not to assist Ukraine.
I always thought Putin was way smarter than this, maybe he’s dying and just doesn’t care what happens. Luckily, according to sources, the Russian launch codes are held by three men, not just Putin, and all three have to input the launch codes to fire the nukes. Hopefully the other two will make themselves scarce and not answer the phone much.
Also, I can’t see Poland unilaterally entering Ukraine even with permission from Zelensky. That amounts to NATO invading Ukraine in Putin’s mind. And would Poland not have to receive the permission and support of NATO (essentially meaning have USA, UK, France, Germany sign on) to undertake such action?
However, I do see political pressure building up in Europe to intervene. It’s one thing to hear about civilian casualties in places that are unfamiliar, but Kiev is a major European capital and most reporters are there, it would likely stir up a firestorm of public anger if the Russians went in there and started killing thousands of people. Full involvement of NATO in Ukraine could have only one logical outcome, the complete destruction of Russian military forces there. Our air superiority would be vast, we could likely destroy most of the Russian invaders now without entering the country at all.
Now before somebody calls me a warmonger, I have already suggested a negotiated settlement, let Russia keep the three enclaves and otherwise get the hell out of there and don’t come back. And let Ukraine join the EU but not NATO.
But I feel that a larger war is almost inevitable because this seems to me (as I explained in another thread) like the prelude to the end time and so the invading northern army will need to be destroyed to validate that prophecy. There is only one force on earth capable of doing that, and it is not the Ukraine which has done well to limit the advances so far but will inevitably be defeated at least to the extent of transferring the fighting to guerrilla style resistance.
I would agree with the idea of leaving this to Europe to solve but since NATO would have to be involved, North American exposure to Russian retaliation would be the same whether we participated or not.
A lot depends on what NATO thinks it knows about first strike decapitation of Russian retaliatory ability. I would imagine that we cannot fully trust that and also there are nuclear submarines which we obviously cannot track with much accuracy until they fire. If we had the capability of wiping out Putin himself, that might force a change in policy, whoever would replace Putin might have no interest in continuing this misadventure. However, he seems to be in secret undisclosed locations, in the Urals, could be a mile underground for all we know. But what is all we know? A 90 minute phone call would presumably give NSA a lot of time to analyze locations.
Be careful buying into all this pro Ukraine propaganda. People seem to forget how to think clearly and rationally these days.
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