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Ukraine invasion: Putin wants all of Ukraine and 'worse is to come' in conflict, warns Macron
Sky News ^ | 3/3/2022 | Sky News

Posted on 03/03/2022 7:45:17 AM PST by marcusmaximus

Vladimir Putin wants to seize all of Ukraine and "worse is to come" during the conflict, the French president has warned.

Emmanuel Macron held talks with Mr Putin over the phone this afternoon in a bid to ease tensions between Russia and the West.

According to French officials, Mr Macron told the Russian leader that he was making a "major mistake" in Ukraine, adding: "You are lying to yourself".

Following the call, Mr Macron believes "worse is to come" in the unfolding humanitarian crisis and that Mr Putin wants to seize the entire country, according to an aide.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: macron; putin; sidebarabuse; ukraine; war
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To: SpeedyInTexas

As I view all images from the war zone with suspicion no matter the source, truth being the first casualty of war, the picture does not show enough to determine if the tank is destroyed - from what is visible here, it seems just immobilized and could be recovered for later service. Does seem likely from the anti-Javelin frame armor ‘sunvisor’ on top and the ERA on the side skirts that it’s an older Russian T-72B3 without the upgraded turret top armor package that can resist Javelins, but I’d need to see more of the hull and turret to be sure.


101 posted on 03/03/2022 9:01:08 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: alternatives?

To be fair, that’s because most Spanish speakers can usually figure out Portuguese.


102 posted on 03/03/2022 9:01:58 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: buwaya

You can believe that if you want.
I choose not to.

You’re going to see the US go socialist, if the Ukraine war becomes WWIII.

I will then take my apology in small bills.


103 posted on 03/03/2022 9:02:09 AM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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To: marcusmaximus

Putin isn’t hitler. Please stop.


104 posted on 03/03/2022 9:02:55 AM PST by montag813
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To: alternatives?

The Portuguese dont think much of the Spanish. As far as Portugal is concerned Spain was the “evil empire”. Funny thing is the Portuguese (and Brazilians) understand Spanish near perfectly, but the Spanish cant make out what the Portuguese are saying in that weird mush-mouthed pronunciation they’ve got. When we had Brazilian neighbors we would often speak (our kids were best of pals), me in Spanish, her in Portuguese, and so it was, I was straining my linguistic chops and she, of course, heard me perfectly.


105 posted on 03/03/2022 9:03:12 AM PST by buwaya
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To: DannyTN

I don’t think so. I think this is Blitzkrieg-decap-and-retreat - take major cities, collect or kill the government figures, fall back to the two breakaway provinces. I don’t think Putin wants a long occupation.


106 posted on 03/03/2022 9:03:32 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: MarMema

When all you have is a hammer, a lot problems look like nails.

There are what we call Neo Nazi brigades in Ukraine. But after they get removed from the board, what happens? Does Putin keep rolling north west? Maybe force a corridor to Kalingard since, well there are Neo Nazis in Poland?

I doubt Russia has the logistics for those moves, but the people that really know aren’t talking.


107 posted on 03/03/2022 9:08:04 AM PST by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: SkyDancer

First Transnistria, then Moldova.


108 posted on 03/03/2022 9:09:42 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Jonty30

No player can tell whats going to happen when someone “cries havoc, and lets slip the dogs of war”. It is a state of especially unpredictable chaos. Too much random stuff is generated by the fact of war itself. Like I said, you need background. There is no mastermind surfing the chaotic sea of events.

Only God knows any such outcome, and he’s not telling either of us what it is.


109 posted on 03/03/2022 9:10:35 AM PST by buwaya
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To: SoConPubbie

Putin figures he has nothing to lose. The globalists were going to get rid of him no matter what.....


110 posted on 03/03/2022 9:11:21 AM PST by RedMominBlueState
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To: marcusmaximus

Putin today on Russian television meeting with his security council

“I will never abandon my conviction that Russians and Ukrainians are one people”

He claims Ukrainian forces are using the civilian population as human shields, hence the civilian casualties

This idea he had that Ukrainians would welcome their brothers in the Russian army as liberators is utterly delusional, but apparently none of the sycophants around him told him otherwise

There is a word for trying to force someone to love you

It’s called “rape”


111 posted on 03/03/2022 9:11:46 AM PST by Meet the New Boss (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act)
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To: buwaya

In the long run, they will not succeed. That is true.
God is in control.

However, until then, God is allowing small numbers of people to re-engineer society worldwide.


112 posted on 03/03/2022 9:12:13 AM PST by Jonty30 (How can you claim to help me with my healthcare costs when you can't pay for your own?)
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To: marcusmaximus

Putin is in the Ural mountains right now, not in Moscow.


Where they have one of the largest military underground cities in the world - is rumored to have a subway connection to Moskva.


113 posted on 03/03/2022 9:12:57 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: Sooth2222

If you thought the region harbored globalist garbage who is out to destroy you, you might want to annex it.


114 posted on 03/03/2022 9:14:21 AM PST by RedMominBlueState
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To: marcusmaximus

Yeah, let’s trust Manny Macaroni.


115 posted on 03/03/2022 9:17:15 AM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Jonty30

Any such “engineer” is an idiot. The rule of unforseen consequences, well, rules. Such an idiot engineer is working with complexity not amenable to prediction. Speaking as, as I am, an engineer, I know our limits, and that is with restricted problem sets. All of human society? Good luck. Most of existence is Rumsfelds “unknown unknowns”.


116 posted on 03/03/2022 9:18:41 AM PST by buwaya
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To: Jonty30

Correlation is not causation. Not even close.


117 posted on 03/03/2022 9:22:14 AM PST by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: DannyTN

Checkout today’s NY Post on line. You are in almost total agreement with Wesley Clark. And I would agree if Russia was the USSR with a Premier responsible to the Politbuto and dedicated Marxists believing that History was on their side. But Putin is evil and insane.


118 posted on 03/03/2022 9:26:32 AM PST by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: marcusmaximus

This is what you get when you buy a mail-order president.

I hope I am wrong but I think that if Putin does not get a win in Ukraine then this will go nuclear... freepers should prepare.

Regardless of who is in the right in this conflict if it is not brought to a close, and soon, then billions of people will suffer and a large portion will die. That horrifying end must be avoided, at nearly any cost.

Keep in mind that in a conflict BOTH sides can be the bad guys.

Absolutely all of the devils that comprise what is referred to as the deep state are banging the drum for war with Russia... sadly, many that I would never have guessed are banging in rhythm with them.

IMO, if attacks are launched against Russian forces from states close to Ukraine... especially the launching of fighter jets from airfields under the cover of being piloted by Ukrainians this will result in the destruction of those external bases by Russia... that will lead to a dark place.

Pray.


119 posted on 03/03/2022 9:28:25 AM PST by Bobalu (The Deep State is the new Soviet Union)
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To: marcusmaximus

Ukraine invasion: Putin wants all of Ukraine and ‘worse is to come’ in conflict, warns Macron

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Well I have no doubt that he wants “All of Ukraine” to be free of Pro-Nato/Pro-West political activists, but he has even more reason to want to control all of Ukraine because several nations have vowed to send weapons of various kinds to the “resistance”.

Now, I have no idea how all this is going to play out. It may be that an armed resistance can eventaully bring the Russians to a negotiation that is far less favorable than what they originally wanted. But it’s also possible that it will lead to a lot more Ukrainians getting killed for the same result along with much harsher treatment for Ukrainians in general when the fighting ends.


120 posted on 03/03/2022 9:33:16 AM PST by Bishop_Malachi (Liberal Socialism - A philosophy which advocates spreading a low standard of living equally.)
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