Posted on 02/25/2022 2:47:18 AM PST by Kaslin
In an ideal world, maybe we could ignore what's happening in Ukraine but we have to see the world as it is, not how we want it to be: Russia is calling and wants its Ukraine back.
I generally appreciate Tucker Carlson, but every time he discusses Ukraine and Russia, I bristle — especially when he contends that America has no interest in Ukraine. I know some of you might agree with Carlson, but you can be a solid conservative who is just as war-weary as the next guy and still see a security interest in Ukraine without being a neocon.
Putin claims to be protecting Russians left in Ukraine after the USSR collapsed, and that Ukraine is rightfully Russian and always has been, even though, historically, there was a Kiev before there was a Moscow. (By the way, it isn't pronounced keev as in keen, but kuh-YEEV in Ukrainian and KEY-yev in Russian.)
Vlad has been a serial breaker of international norms starting as early as 2008, when he invaded Georgia. He annexed Crimea in 2014 and made his first incursion into the Donbas region. Not only has he flagrantly violated Article 2(4) of the U.N. charter by his "use of force against the territorial integrity" of Ukraine, but he has repeatedly violated the promises Russia, the U.S., and the U.K. made in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum: security to Ukraine for giving up its nukes, with assurances that the U.S. would respond if Russia were to renege. All three nations agreed "to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine" and "to refrain from the threat or use of force" against Ukraine.
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Some irony there. It looks like Russia is now helping Ukraine to rid itself of all of those ‘Russian puppets and sympathisers’ - by absorbing them into Russia.
I neglected to mention that there are double digit US labs spread around the nation. The Pentagon itself has 3 or 4 bio-weapon labs in Ukraine. If you watch where Russia attacked, they are the locations of the bio-warfare labs. He doesn’t want them on his border. I can’t blame him for that.
The safest and best way to kill the pathogens is with extreme heat; missiles provide the necessary level of heat.
I have a meme somewhere that maps it out. I’ll try to find it tomorrow. It’s bedtime in my world. If I recall, there are something like 19 or twenty bio-warfare labs in the Ukraine. Our government is in on it and those labs are supported by our tax dollars. And yes, it is the usual suspects who are involved.
...there was a Kiev before there was a Moscow. (By the way, it isn’t pronounced keev as in keen, but kuh-YEEV in Ukrainian and KEY-yev in Russian.)
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Don’t you just love it when elites tell you you’ve been doing it wrong? After decades of pronouncing and spelling the city as “Kiev”, suddenly we’re told the name is “Kyiv”, and it has always been “Kyiv”, and you’re an ignoramus if you think otherwise.
I agree and could also care less about the Ukraine.
I call names by their American iced versions. For that is my chosen language
Col-bert for that officious twit.
Italy for Italia
Most groups call the States using their own language
Hunter Biden might be exposed...
Your comment suggests that the Ukraine is something more than a American puppet regime; a vassal state for Biden/Clinton/Obama oligarchs. Negotiations between Volodymyr Zelenskyy, the American version of Jimmy Kimmel, and our very own, very demented Joe Biden, would be high comedy were it not that lives are at risk.
Didn’t you get the memo about Daesh rather than ISIS?
We screwed this up. Had we promised not to make Ukraine a NATO country, Putin wouldn’t have invaded. After Biden, completely compromised by his bribery from Ukraine, saw the opportunity to retake the only really habitable part of the USSR and did it.
China won’t be as successful when they attempt to take China. They will lose the dam if they do.
” Imagine the economic prosperity to Ukraine, the tax dollars to the E.U., and the benefits to all of Europe if Ukraine were able to exploit that capability to its fullest.”
Read enough, PURE LIES. “the tax dollars to the E.U.”. Hungary and Poland joined the EU in 2004 and they are STILL sucking tax dollars FROM the EU (which is the only reason they haven’t left, given all the social crap the EU keeps demanding of them).
Ukraine is in far worse shape at this point, more like East Germany was, and so claiming that there is some dollar BENEFIT to the EU is a flat-out lie, and I don’t need to read anymore of her propaganda.
How does a buffer zone work against cruise missiles and fighter\bombers nailing your capital?
It doesn’t.
What a buffer zone does is delay your opponent’s armor and infantry from reaching goals inside your territory.
NATO doesn’t want to conquer Russia. Russia is to be held up as the perpetual bad guy who historically has been undefeatable.
Why? Military-industrial-government-globalist complex that wants to perpetually sell munitions and armaments. Removing the “bad guys” reduces what you can sell to the governments of NATO.
“I can tell you that Western Europe (Germany, France) would be happy to sacrifice Hungary and Poland to Russia in exchange for energy security and “peace” “
Well, they’ve done that in the past, so I agree. If I were those countries, I’d strike the best deal that I could with Russia and be through with Western Europe (pretty much the Austria/Finland approach, which was fine for both countries economically), especially considering the social crap being pushed on them by the EU, and the fact that Western Europe’s days as a majority white territory are now numbered, thanks to their re-population program. While Russia’s future isn’t so great either, they will at least make an attempt to survive long-term and will almost certainly outlast Western Europe demographically.
Oh puhleeez
That leftist party line is so boring
That makes no sense whatsoever
Not true. As long as Putin the communist was in power it would always be likely
“Speaking of our southern border, if Putin is taking out a Western friendly regime in Ukraine, we should take out the Communist regimes in Cuba and Venezuela, to which regimes the Russians have close ties.”
Agree, and that becomes the third way to get Putin’s attention. Here they are:
1) Drill baby drill.
2) Massive US military build-up and modernization
3) Taking Cuba and/or Venezuela
All of the above have one problem, which is that Biden won’t do it, and for that matter, if Trump were back without SOLID GOP majorities, then Democrats in Congress would prevent Trump from doing the same...and the courts might anyway, if they feel like it. [ironically, Carter did both #1 and #2 after Afghanistan was invaded]
So, our options are as follows:
1) Symbolic actions which Putin could care less about
2) Strong actions, like cutting Russia off from international banking.
3) Fighting Russia either directly or indirectly in Ukraine
Of the above, #1 is the only one being done now, as #2 means Europe shuts down economically (until the wind starts blowing, at least), and #3 can escalate to the point of exchanging cities.
So #1 it is.
Sadly you may be correct, though those "refugees" will be WHITE, and I wouldn't expect that they would be welcomed by the democRATS.
The key word here is 'violated' if that means anything to peace loving people anymore....
Kickback money is the biggest insecurity to our fraudulent leaders in DC. Congress, presidents, kids of bigwigs all on the take from Ukraine and other so called allies.
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