Posted on 01/16/2022 1:16:08 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
Over the past three years, dozens of cities across the country have banned natural gas hookups in newly constructed buildings as part of a growing campaign to reduce carbon emissions from homes. The movement scored a major victory last month, when New York City’s outgoing Mayor Bill de Blasio signed into law a ban on gas hookups in new buildings.
Though new laws apply to the entire home, the policy debate often focuses on one room in particular: the kitchen. Gas stoves account for a relatively small share of the emissions released by a typical household, but they’ve become a proxy for a larger fight over how far efforts to curb at-home natural gas consumption in the name of fighting climate change should go.
The debate over gas stoves is really a two-part conversation, with one element focusing on the environmental harms of at-home natural gas consumption in general, and the other specifically on the indoor pollution that gas cooktops create.
Climate change activists see gas bans as a powerful way to reduce the greenhouse gases created by buildings, which account for about 13 percent of total U.S. emissions. They argue that — unlike burgeoning technologies like a green power grid and electric vehicles — clean alternatives to gas heaters, appliances and stoves are readily available to most consumers. Critics of the bans, on the other hand, are skeptical of how much they’ll really reduce emissions, worry about increasing costs for homeowners and argue that market-based solutions will be most effective at promoting a transition to electrified homes.
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This rule is not for special people just like the commercial grade applicances put into the homes of the wealthy do not conform to EPA standards just for you shlubs.
Insanity.
Doesn’t the gas burned by your furnace all winter, night and day, dwarf the amount of gas you might burn with a gas cook top.
An electric oven with a gas cook top is the ideal option.
We have an electric stove (came with the place - no natural gas in the area anyway) I actually hate it. Instead of it working like the old coil units that actually regulated the amount of electrical resistance the burner received - so you knew by the setting (1-10) whether it was going to be hot-hot, hot-warm, warm, warm-cool, or cool. This thing has a thermostat that regulates the temperature by turning it off or on based on that. So it’s either 100% on and red hot or 100% off. And so easy to burn stuff on it. Even more frustrating, when it’s too hot and you lift the pan to keep it from burning, the burner senses that it’s now cooler (since you lifted the hot pan) and turns it up to 100%.
When it’s time to replace it I need to find one that’s not like that.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”
H.L. Mencken
Great quote. Thank you.
The Big One is going to separate West Coast cities from the mainland long before they get rid of gas lines in metro SF and LA.
Total joke.
On Guam, you have to have a propane tank. They don’t install gas lines because of the earthquakes.
For a small isolated place, with limited disaster resources, this makes a great deal of sense.
I can see the same argument being made in Eww Yuck.
WTH?
nothing burns cleaner than natural gas!
During a massive ice storm here several years back, electricity was out, no trains running, no cars running for four days. Very quite. We used kerosene lamps for light that had not been lit in decades.
We still had natural gas for heating and cooking, and city water.
We also used the gas burners for extra heat.
Those in the Midwest should also remember the snow storm of March 14, 1968 in which power was out for even longer, in Oklahoma, Kansas, Mo and Arkansas.
We also had a massive rain storm a couple of years ago in which the electricity went out for a day or so. I had bought an electric generator to supply oxygen to my wife, but we still had heat and water.
My sister south of Ft Worth was without electricity last year for about a week. When they got it back they found pipes burst all through the house.
The only heat they had at that time was their fireplace in which they used up all their wood.
It pays to buy a couple of 5 gallon propane tanks and a propane camper stove for cooking.
As long as their a##es are warm
Natural gas is the most efficient and least emissions of Co2.
Ok, ban natural gas and fire up the coal plants to provide electricity via the greatest emission of C02 into the environment.
ps
Our new coal plants emit very little pollutants except for plant food which is C02.
They just keep pushing.
They think they will be the last to get eaten when the SHTF.
Believe it or not, there are many who are afraid of gas explosions. So when buying a house will go for all electric or electric with oil heating. 100% stupid, but what can you do. Gas is the best for cooking, and I have no problem with it for heating. Gas and propane are instant on and instant off.
Funny how those afraid of natural gas heating/cooking, now have allies in the know nothing eco-wacko movement. Who love electric cars, electric everything, as long as the electric power is generated a few hundred miles away. And electric lawnmowers suck. Not high powered enough for mowing a decent sized yard. I know this first hand.
I HATE the electric stove in my apartment. It turns anything you bake into dark brown on one side and raw on the other. And there’s nothing like pancakes on the griddle on top that are more than done on one side and still watery on the other. I just bought a house and a brand new gas range to replace the gas cooktop and electric wall over, which is way too small. Heh!
It would have been a good idea before any gas lines were put in place.
That decision (for SF) was made in 1930!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Gas_and_Electric_Company
A friend of mine and I were also joking that at least we don't have electric vehicles.
Exactly!!!
My nephew is working on a pipeline in ND; it was -50 where he is at.
Seriously these eco-freaks should be dumped in ND and left there.
There have been times during Connecticut winters when the oil furnace failed or the electricity was out during a storm that a gas oven helped heat my house.
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