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Pilot requested the controller to turn up the runway lights. Controller responded that lights were at 100%. Appears that pilot lost spatial orientation and just didn't know where he was on approach.
1 posted on 12/29/2021 6:32:31 AM PST by artichokegrower
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daily mail is a day late


2 posted on 12/29/2021 6:37:17 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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Horrible. Prayers up.


3 posted on 12/29/2021 6:37:29 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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Link
Air traffic Audio Plane Crash El Cajon San Diego California
https://rumble.com/vrilgj-air-traffic-control-audio-plane-crash-el-cajon-san-diego-california.html


4 posted on 12/29/2021 6:39:16 AM PST by janetjanet998
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lalLdpFAryI


5 posted on 12/29/2021 6:41:36 AM PST by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged )
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“...clipped a power line...”

The pilot must have been flying real low.


7 posted on 12/29/2021 6:42:56 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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For some reason that even the Air Traffic Controller can’t understand, the pilot decided to do a VFR landing with a 500 foot ceiling.

I’m not knowledgeable enough to say, but looks like a really dumb move. Why would you drop out of IFR?


9 posted on 12/29/2021 6:45:40 AM PST by Not_Who_U_Think
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The Learjet was returning from Medevac missions, with two pilots and two nurses aboard. A tragedy.


10 posted on 12/29/2021 6:47:18 AM PST by twister881
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I saw an F-105 crash within 2 blocks of my elementary school in Las Vegas in 64. We were on the playground at 2 o’clock and the jet was vertical tail up and the after burner melted the flashing on the school roof. The jet crashed into homes down the street and killed 8 people. The last thing the pilot said was that he couldn’t hit the school. It exploded in a huge fireball. It left an impression on me and everytime I hear a plane nearby I cringe. The pilot was a hero.


11 posted on 12/29/2021 6:47:22 AM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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I heard the audio the other day. I heard an impact just before the pilot starts to curse.
I thought it might have been a drone or a bird, but never considered a powerline.


12 posted on 12/29/2021 6:47:37 AM PST by READINABLUESTATE ( ‘When tyranny becomes law, resistance becomes duty.’)
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He obviously didn’t know where he was but the video showed the plane literally dropping out of the sky…

Looks to me in the video that the plane banked to much and completely lost lift.


13 posted on 12/29/2021 6:48:23 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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Never fly on a private plane.


14 posted on 12/29/2021 6:48:43 AM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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The pilot of the DC-10 that lost an engine (fell off the plane) after departure from OHare just said “Oh damn”.


16 posted on 12/29/2021 6:53:32 AM PST by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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I think I’d be screaming something else, but that’s just me.


17 posted on 12/29/2021 6:56:10 AM PST by OKSooner (All thinking people should read "The Real Anthony Fauci" by RFK Jr.)
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The main article has the Ring video captured from a house not far away, it doesn't have the audio, except the homeowner's shock at witnessing a plane crash.

DailyMail

30 posted on 12/29/2021 7:30:15 AM PST by StAnDeliver (Each of you have at least 1 of these in your 401k: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, J&J, Merck and GSK)
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I’m not a pilot so this might be a stupid question .If you are certified to fly a jet then that means you are at the top of the heap in terms of flight training.Why didn’t the pilot look at his altimeter so he knew where he was in relation to the ground.


32 posted on 12/29/2021 7:37:07 AM PST by trashiscash
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The video with the view from the cockpit is much better.


37 posted on 12/29/2021 7:48:17 AM PST by SaxxonWoods
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Appears that pilot lost spatial orientation and just didn't know where he was on approach.

I've watched lots of "Air Disaster" episodes and it amazes my how many even commercial pilots don't seem to know how to use the four basic flight instruments: ADI, HSI, Airspeed indicator, and Altimeter.

55 posted on 12/29/2021 8:53:30 AM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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While that certainly sucks for the pilot, that also has to suck for the Air Traffic Controller that had to listen to those death-screams.


58 posted on 12/29/2021 9:39:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (I feel like it is 1937 Germany, and my last name is Feinberg.)
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I used to work for a wonderful man who used to fly fighter jets. Here is one of his stories:

I was flying into Chanute Air Force base at night in an F-102. The sky was clear of traffic and I was concerned about the amount of fuel. I called the tower for permission to come straight in, and it was granted. Now one of Chanute's runway parallels the Interstate highway. I throttled back, engaged spoilers, and descended to land between the blue lights. Well, crap, the blue lights went above my head and I saw headlights coming toward me! I pulled up the gear, and hit the throttle, climbing back out.

I called the tower and told them what happened. They said to parallel that by 400 feet and I'd be OK. I came around, offset the path, and descended once again. Woah!, The blue lights rose above my head again and this time I saw taillights trying to get off the road.

Again I called the tower, and asked him if his runway lights were really on. He said "Sure! Oh shit! How about now?". Now I could see real runway lights off to my right. I landed on that stretch of pavement, but ran out of fuel before I could taxi to the parking spot.

I asked him he how could mistake the lights along a highway for runway lights. He said under some weather conditions those mercury vapor lights look just like runway lights.

65 posted on 12/29/2021 11:11:13 AM PST by GingisK
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The weather was described as terrible. Best I can tell, this airport does not have an instrument landing system (ILS), only lights along side the runway that provide visual guidance for the correct landing glide slope.

I was an instrument rated private pilot in my past life long ago and would not have tried to make a landing at this airport in these weather conditions.


69 posted on 12/29/2021 11:46:19 AM PST by Oldhunk
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