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Illinois bill proposes to strip unvaxxed of their health insurance
Off Guardian ^ | Dec 8, 2021 | Kit Knightly

Posted on 12/09/2021 8:28:32 AM PST by Wish2Post

Illinois Representative Jonathan Carroll wants to push through a change to the state’s insurance law that would mean health insurers no longer have to cover unvaccinated people who get Covid, forcing people to pay their medical bills out of pocket.

The Democrat lawmaker told the Chicago Sun-Times:

I think it’s time that we say ‘You choose not to get vaccinated, then you’re also going to assume the risk that if you do catch COVID, and you get sick, the responsibility is on you,’”

The potential corruption and abuse of such a rule should be obvious to anyone familiar with just how mendacious insurance companies can be.

In all likelihood insurance companies will simply demand a negative Covid test before paying anything, and if you test positive, no matter what you were treated for, you will be called a “covid case” and forced to pay out of pocket.

The bill could, essentially, wipe all health insurance off the books for unvaccinated people.

The vaccinated should take no comfort from this, because their vaccinated status is entirely temporary, and subject to rules that could change on a whim.

Any “double jabbed” who misses a booster, or got a brand of vaccine that was subsequently unapproved or discontinued, or wasn’t updated for the latest variant, could suddenly find themselves one of the “unvaccinated” underclass.

Of course, once it applies to vaccination status it can apply to other things. You travelled to the wrong place, or you didn’t wear a mask, you “associated with known anti-vaxxers”.

And, even more concerning, is the potentially slippery slope this starts us down. Unvaccinated don’t get health insurance. Neither do smokers who get lung cancer. Or overweight people who get diabetes. And so on and so on.

The potential good news is that putting this law on the books would require a lot of legal workarounds, including violating or changing the Affordable Care Act, which outlaws removing insurance coverage from someone based on a new medical diagnosis or test result.

The editorial board of the Chicago Sun-Times already came out against the move, calling it unfair, warning of the same slippery slope I mentioned above, whilst at the same time arguing “the willfully unvaccinated should pay a price”, and be charged more for their insurance.

Given that response, it’s possible Mr Carroll’s role here is to set out an unacceptably extreme position, so the intended plan of higher insurance premiums for unvaccinated people seems more reasonable by comparison.

But, whether genuine or not, and whether it comes to fruition or not, the very fact the suggestion was made is a damning condemnation of the times. It would be a truly terrible precedent to set.

Once you start putting stipulations on healthcare, you don’t stop.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: health; insurance; unvaxxed; vaccine
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The next assault on our freedom to vax or not vax.

Why no one would be safe with such a law:

"The bill could, essentially, wipe all health insurance off the books for unvaccinated people. The vaccinated should take no comfort from this, because their vaccinated status is entirely temporary, and subject to rules that could change on a whim. Once you start putting stipulations on healthcare, you don’t stop."

1 posted on 12/09/2021 8:28:32 AM PST by Wish2Post
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To: Wish2Post

Democrats are, at the very least, fascists. If they thought they could get away with it they would trot out the cattle cars and start transporting “the others” to concentration camps.


2 posted on 12/09/2021 8:31:37 AM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Wish2Post

So US citizens who pay for insurance would not be covered?

Yet illegals who surge the border are?


3 posted on 12/09/2021 8:32:18 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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To: Wish2Post

Let me guess, AA crowd?


4 posted on 12/09/2021 8:32:37 AM PST by Muhammy
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To: Wish2Post
Then smokers. Then fat people. Then alcoholics. Then homeschoolers. Then Republicans. Then democrats who are pro life. Then democrats who say "no" to authorized requests.

Those people are an enormous burden and cost to the system.

5 posted on 12/09/2021 8:33:01 AM PST by blackdog (Jab Dodger. )
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To: Wish2Post

Yes. Do you eat read meat? No coverage. Do you smoke? No coverage. Do you drink alcohol? No coverage. On and on it could go.


6 posted on 12/09/2021 8:33:08 AM PST by Codeflier (Please stop calling these violent totalitarian collectivist Democrats, liberals. )
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To: Wish2Post

I assume when they say Illinois they mean Chicago?


7 posted on 12/09/2021 8:33:59 AM PST by Leep (Save America. Lock down pres. Brandon!)
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To: Wish2Post

But homosexuals who continue to have unprotected risky sex can still get covered if they get HIV AIDS.

Some animals are more equal than others.


8 posted on 12/09/2021 8:34:01 AM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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To: Codeflier

Will Obamacare also deny coverage?


9 posted on 12/09/2021 8:34:33 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (If you are vaccinated, you cannot get COVID from someone who is not vaccinated. Lighted up Karen!)
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To: ought-six

Democrats love Muslims. It’s a jealousy thing. Cutting the throats of anyone who doesn’t follow their dogma is sooooo exciting to them.


10 posted on 12/09/2021 8:35:05 AM PST by blackdog (Jab Dodger. )
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To: Wish2Post

Can we do this with AIDS?

L


11 posted on 12/09/2021 8:35:46 AM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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The bill could, essentially, wipe all health insurance off the books for unvaccinated people.

Too late - Obamacare pretty much did that already. Only the indigent are eligible for full coverage. /s

12 posted on 12/09/2021 8:36:02 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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You know, that’s a fantastic point.

Consider: This passes. Pope of Science Fauci declares that 3 shots are needed to be considered vaxxed. Overnight, how many lose coverage?


13 posted on 12/09/2021 8:36:08 AM PST by ferret_airlift
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To: Wish2Post

“Turn your healthcare over to the government... what’s the worst that could happen?”

Here’s your sign.


14 posted on 12/09/2021 8:37:26 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Wish2Post

Jonathan Carroll

15 posted on 12/09/2021 8:37:40 AM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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And these are the same azzholes that want universal health care?


16 posted on 12/09/2021 8:38:02 AM PST by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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To: Wish2Post

Y’know, if paying for their own treatment allowed them to choose Ivermectin, HCQ, and/or Monoclonal Antibodies (MAB) for treatment, it might not be a completely bad thing.


17 posted on 12/09/2021 8:38:08 AM PST by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: Wish2Post

Well, federal law says you must have health insurance. Methinks Illinois is a bit full of itself. These “leaders” are going to find themselves in a bad way at some point.


18 posted on 12/09/2021 8:38:08 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Wish2Post

They have exposed their evil souls and they will never be able to hide that again. The whole world now knows what they are.


19 posted on 12/09/2021 8:39:37 AM PST by McGavin999 (To shut down the border tell the administration the cartel is smuggling Ivermectin )
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To: blackdog

Yet those people are actually PAYING insurance premiums...Guess that is for funding health care of others...


20 posted on 12/09/2021 8:43:15 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (It's not the job of the unvaxxed to protect the vaxxed. That's the job of the "vaccine.")
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