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Epstein and Maxwell are scum, and I hope Maxwell goes to prison, but if a girl continued to visit Epstein's home after multiple incidents of abuse, she was agreeing to be in orgies as the price of hanging out in a rich guy's house. Kept women are not kept for free. Where were these girls' parents?
1 posted on 11/30/2021 7:56:45 PM PST by karpov
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a child cant give consent


2 posted on 11/30/2021 8:00:21 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009
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It’s all disgusting and it will probably get worse. However, you know what is the most disgusting thing about this whole trial?

They are not naming names of the clients.

Justice for thee but not for me.......


3 posted on 11/30/2021 8:01:00 PM PST by volunbeer (Find the truth and accept it - anything else is delusional)
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Why are underage girls even there? Not like they were kidnapped. They preyed on young girls. How many were willing early? Prostitutes at 16?


4 posted on 11/30/2021 8:04:00 PM PST by Fledermaus (I'll wear a mask when Dr. Fraudchi shuts the hell up.)
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Where were her parents?


7 posted on 11/30/2021 8:05:08 PM PST by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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"It’s hard to remember because I was abused pretty much every time I would go over to his house"

I'm starting to see a pattern here and a way to avoid being abused.

10 posted on 11/30/2021 8:11:55 PM PST by BipolarBob (WHY are there no Democrats on Mt. Rushmore?)
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Her father was dead and they had just lost their home.

Predators look for vulnerable children.

You can normalize anything with a minor. Please don’t blame the victim. They are not adults yet.


12 posted on 11/30/2021 9:17:24 PM PST by Persevero (You cannot comply your way out of tyranny. )
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Being a kept woman is glorified and glamorized all over TV, movies, and the internet.

Foolish young girls, even those from good homes, fall for the propaganda.

It’s nothing new. Even in the fifties, there were these kinds of movies, i.e. “Gigi”, “The Moon is Blue”, “Breakfast at Tiffany’s”, “Sabrina.”

Granted, these films were not explicit, but the message was still there:

“Better to be an old man’s sweetheart than a young man’s slave.”


17 posted on 11/30/2021 9:46:26 PM PST by miserare ( Respect for life--life of all kinds-- is the first principle of civilization.~~A. Schweitzer.)
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Paraphrased: “It happened almost every time I went over to
the house.”

So why did you continue to go?

This was a kid, and these were adult grown-ups, not just
fringe early stage grownups.

I’m uncomfortable even reading about what was going on. Talk
about a slimy situation.

When she recites what took place, just remember that you
are basically hearing the same sorts of things Bill Clinton
engaged in on his trips to the island.

I wouldn’t go near these people. It was bound to rub off
on everyone sooner or later.


20 posted on 11/30/2021 9:50:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Democrats, fixing things that haven't been broken, so they don't work, for over 197 years.)
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...but if a girl continued to visit Epstein's home after multiple incidents of abuse, she was agreeing to be in orgies as the price of hanging out in a rich guy's house. Kept women are not kept for free. Where were these girls' parents?

Having been around the block a few times, I suspect that most of these "girls" were runaways who had been living on the street and making money through prostitution.

Their parents were nowhere in the picture and the young women did not want to see them any longer.

Somehow I doubt the court will allow any questions on the family status of the "victims" or how they supported themselves prior to this time.

We will see if a good defense lawyer can produce a slip-up which will open the door to these questions.

26 posted on 11/30/2021 10:20:37 PM PST by CurlyDave
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With Epstein dead, what happened to his estate? Was it all seized by the government?

Is there the chance that Ghislaine could be acquitted AND the accusers offered a settlement from the Federal Government?

Sounds weird (maybe it’s impossible) but, anymore, the weird seems to happen more and more often.


30 posted on 11/30/2021 10:51:50 PM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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What I sure would like to know are details of the sources and flow of money. How does a perverted couple who seem to be busy all day long engaging in finding ‘candidates’, grooming, orgies and all the related activities of ‘sex on a grand scale with all kinds of people who they take on as slaves in multiple locations around the world’ etc. afford to do what they are doing. This all looks like massive amounts of money going out without any money coming in.

Were they wealthy enough from former lives and/or inheritances and investments that they didn’t need to work and so could just engage in sexual activities all day long? Or were they really in the blackmail business on a massive scale.... and how on earth was that sustained? How many fish did they catch and how many coins did this turn up? I suppose the fish they caught would not exactly be inclined to report them and so that opened the door for catching more. Or was Epstein really a brilliant investor/entrepreneur who only needed to work a couple hours a day to keep the money flowing that fed this massive machine of money flow?

How did this work? Well, we’ll never know the details of this but this sure would be interesting to know as this goes right to the heart of why what they were doing was possible...


34 posted on 12/01/2021 3:55:17 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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This is typical Democrat elite behavior. I think. The whole lot of them are sex fiends.


37 posted on 12/01/2021 5:04:31 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (But what do I know? I'm just a backwoods engineer.)
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“I was abused pretty much every time I would go over to his house “

I think I see the problem here


40 posted on 12/01/2021 5:20:20 AM PST by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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PLEASE, don’t deny the kid’s culpability in this.

Excuses are like ... never mind, but everybody has them.

BUT, the ADULTS, have NO EXCUSE. They were/are predators.

Will “names be named”? Will SHE “name names”?

The rest is just window dressing.


50 posted on 12/01/2021 8:32:12 AM PST by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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Ghislaine Maxwell declines to testify as defense rests case

https://apnews.com/article/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-defense-rests-b126c3a57e66d9003757eda956a756b9


70 posted on 12/17/2021 4:53:37 PM PST by Texan4Life
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