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Moderna COVID vaccine may give you more antibodies.
yahoo news ^ | Tue, September 7, 2021 | Katie Camero

Posted on 09/07/2021 6:39:41 PM PDT by entropy12

People who received the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine had “slightly higher” antibody levels than those who received the Pfizer, now formally called Comirnaty, shot, according to a new small study.

While both vaccines insert molecules called mRNA that teach our bodies how to produce coronavirus antibodies, the Moderna shot uses more than three times the amount of mRNA than the Pfizer vaccine. This, the University of Virginia School of Medicine researchers say, could explain their findings.

So, does that mean the Moderna vaccine offers better protection against COVID-19?

The study was published Sept. 2 in the journal JAMA.

“The thing that will be interesting is figuring out if measuring antibody levels ends up being a good marker of vaccine protection,” study co-author Dr. Jeffrey Wilson, an immunologist at the University of Virginia, said in a statement. “At the moment, we don’t know for sure.”

The team examined blood samples from 167 vaccinated university employees collected anywhere between one week to a month after their second doses; 79 received the Pfizer vaccine and 88 got the Moderna shot. Recipients were 42 years old, on average, and most (72%) were women.

Those who got the Moderna vaccine had more antibodies (about 69 micrograms per milliliter) in their blood than people who got the Pfizer shot (about 46 micrograms per milliliter) — regardless of age.

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To: Jane Long
Nah, don’t twist words. I said lasting immunity, not lifetime. Keep it straight.

“Ooooo impressive”—lol, seriously? So you were trying to impress me, as well, then. I’m flattered.

I have no idea what VPs or Froctors or “boooosters” are, but I can see that a good faith conversation with you won’t be possible. The hostility is rolling off you in waves. If you’re interested in an adult conversation, let me know.

101 posted on 09/07/2021 10:50:59 PM PDT by AvaB (The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists—-W. Churchill )
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To: entropy12
More antibodies sounds good, but are they NEUTRALIZING antibodies? A flood of non-neutralizing antibodies is just setting the table for Antibody Dependent Enhancement when the right pathogen comes along that has a partial match to the antibody.
102 posted on 09/07/2021 10:57:03 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: caww; nagant
Well if the car and the boat and the firetruck are on fire I’d stay safely in my home and trust the Lord and my ability to bail as much water as possible .....

What sort of God do you believe in that would send you a car, a boat and a firetruck that was on fire?

103 posted on 09/07/2021 11:05:02 PM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: AvaB; Jane Long; bagster

Look, a n00b from July 2021...
(Taking you aside, talking to you quietly.)

Hi stranger,

I don’t believe we’ve seen much of you in these parts before.

People have been following COVID and keeping abreast of things for oh, call it a year and a half now...daily.

There are people here who chime in who are PhDs, MDs and Pharmacists; Nurses; and lay people who have been reading medical articles for fun for decades.

And we’ve flamed into oblivion, any number of people who waltzed in as trolls, or working for the Pharmaceutical companies, who were going to correct the poor misguided Fox-news watchers. They got owned. Badly.

May I suggest, that before attempting to correct everyone with “Doctors” in your family, that you

a) quietly lurk on the threads for 2-3 weeks.
b) ask around, I’m sure a number of posters have made compendiums or quick start guides involving a number of highly-cited MDs/PhDs, or those who have significant clinical experience administering the jabs; as well as scientific/medical journal articles from the literature.

If you are coming in new (yes, I saw your web page, Trump /DeSantis, rah rah Southwest Virginia), you may have the mistaken impression that you’re up to speed compared to this thread.

Unless you are a regional or national authority on the coof in your own right, you’re not.

It’s not that we’re all MDs: but we bring stuff from many different sources and analyze and compare it as a group, beyond the ability of any one individual.

(As far as the hostility — that’s part of what happens when there have been regular waves of trolls and disruptors for months on end. Just lurk for a bit, till you get the feel of the place.)

Oh, and be sure to let everyone know when bagster asks you to marry him (get in *back* of the line, please, it can get crowded...)

Welcome aboard!


104 posted on 09/07/2021 11:13:25 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: goldbux

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105 posted on 09/07/2021 11:53:54 PM PDT by goldbux (No sufficiently rich interpreted language can represent its own semantics. -- Alfred Tarski, 1936)
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To: TTFX

“Read studies measuring how much the antibody level goes down per week.”

While your body makes spike proteins that cross the blood brain barrier and settle in all the organs. Then your exposed to another cold or flu virus and the immune system attacks itself which will not end well.

Fauci has not talked about that has he?


106 posted on 09/08/2021 3:42:11 AM PDT by Captain7seas
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To: entropy12

I know of no one in the last 18 months that has had the flu or a cold. I know several that have had Covid. What happened to the good old fashioned colds and flu?


107 posted on 09/08/2021 3:46:11 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: CJ Wolf

I and my best friend both got the J&J. Different times, different places. My doc tested me for antibodies....almost none he said. I told her to have her doc test her....almost none he said. What the heck?!?! Neither of us has had Covid though.


108 posted on 09/08/2021 6:20:48 AM PDT by sheana
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To: telescope115

And me !


109 posted on 09/08/2021 7:12:40 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: Empire_of_Liberty

My point was that “covid” parties didn’t seem to work too well in the nursing homes.

But I do agree with you. We have been fearfully led down a path to the vax. The vax is not worthless it is very profitable for many, just not to the people who get it.

Covid parties might work for the youngers. I went to a chicken pox party when I was a kid. But if you hadn’t had the chicken pox as child and got it as an adult, it could be real bad.


110 posted on 09/08/2021 7:22:16 AM PDT by CJ Wolf ( what is scarier than offensive words? Not being able to say them...God wins. Trump always wins. . )
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To: CJ Wolf

Thank you. I think we are in agreement.

The nursing homes were not “covid parties”. They were without informed consent and with a high risk of death. They were murder, put simply.

The “party” you mention from your childhood is exactly what I was referencing. A high survival rate and natural immunity would make further excuses to dehumanize education or risk these mRNA treatments on children unnecessary.

My original post, to which to responded, was my observation that such an approach was being massively influenced by creepy videos and stories coming out of China. The approach to natural immunity in the young and healthy was deliberately discouraged.


111 posted on 09/08/2021 7:33:09 AM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty (Fauci is the arsonist in the Fire Department)
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To: lilypad

Military Lab created Covid works faster to infect you or kill you than the old fashioned natural virus of influenza.


112 posted on 09/08/2021 9:27:13 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump was the best president in my life time of 81 years and counting..)
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To: Captain7seas

The experimental mRNA based vaccine has been a big nothing burger in causing me adverse side effect, 6+ months after my 2nd jab. I may be over age 81, but the routine in video below, done daily keeps ALL RESPIRATORY diseases away from me. Daily exercise is the best thing ever for staying healthy, better than any prescription, better than any food groups, better than any vitamins, better than even ivermectin. Have not had a cold or flu or covid on pneumonia or sinus infection in 15 years. I strongly recommend all seniors to follow my example.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I55ZxIwbuOU


113 posted on 09/08/2021 9:36:17 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump was the best president in my life time of 81 years and counting..)
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To: AvaB; grey_whiskers

Welcome to FR AvaB and your intelligence infused posts are appreciated. Just because you just signed on to FR does not mean you are less intelligent than the rest of us. So keep those posts coming.


114 posted on 09/08/2021 9:42:17 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump was the best president in my life time of 81 years and counting..)
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To: Artcore

Forest Gump said “it takes one idiot to know another”.
He may have been right.


115 posted on 09/08/2021 9:44:03 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump was the best president in my life time of 81 years and counting..)
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To: roving

6+ months after the 2nd jab of Moderna, this was my exercise last evening for 23 minutes, followed by 10 minutes on weight machine working with 30 lb weight.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I55ZxIwbuOU

There is absolutely nothing else which could help me stay this healthy and energetic at age 81. I mow my suburban lawn every 3 days in hot Florida with a push mower without needing breaks. I very strongly recommend this type of exercise to all seniors. Anyone can do it by starting out easy.


116 posted on 09/08/2021 9:47:59 AM PDT by entropy12 (President Trump was the best president in my life time of 81 years and counting..)
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To: delta7
Hooray, I had Covid 14 days ago, no poisons injected into my body- natural immunity…..no worries this day forward……

I may have had it too in that timeframe. Slightly raised temp for a day, felt a little run down, runny nose, then coughed for two days. I took a little extra D3/C/Zinc and Elderberry extract and bounced back the next day.

117 posted on 09/08/2021 9:48:48 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: MD Expat in PA

One who would use whatever is available .....but the judgement of taking it or not is up to the individual.


118 posted on 09/08/2021 9:58:46 AM PDT by caww ( )
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To: AvaB

Note that in Israel, the % of the population who is sick (though fully jabbed) exceeds the % of the population who is jabbed.

Across all age ranges up to age 80, refuting the strawman excuse that the correlation is due to disproportionate injections of the elderly who just happen to be more susceptible. (Note the raw counts in each age cohort.)

120 posted on 09/08/2021 11:18:12 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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