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This Afghan rout is entirely on Joe Biden
https://nypost.com ^ | Fri Aug 13, 2021 | By Post Editorial Board

Posted on 08/13/2021 5:45:56 AM PDT by Red Badger

It doesn’t get more idiotic: “The Taliban also has to make an assessment about what they want their role to be in the international community,” White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said with a straight face Wednesday.

Oh, and the State Department has sent diplomats to “press the Taliban to stop their military offensive and to negotiate a political settlement, which is the only path to stability and development in Afghanistan.” They’re also begging to have the US embassy in Kabul left alone, warning that future US aid is at risk — and so effectively promising that we’ll actually subsidize these barbarians.

Hello? The Taliban has never given a damn about world opinion or “stability and development.” It was a global pariah when it ruled Afghanistan in the ’90s, ignoring the handwringing as it crushed the country’s women, destroyed those 1,500-year-old Buddha statues and hosted the al Qaeda plotters of 9/11.

And it hasn’t changed a whit since, blowing off all diplomatic efforts these last 20 years to get it to abandon its drive to reconquer the country.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: Red Badger

Neah.
This is about the only thing Biden has done that is sorta of right. Naturally he had to go and eff it up at the last moment, though.

This is entirely on Geouge W. Bush and his administration which decided to perform nation building instead of destroying the Afghanis and leaving in them a fear of the US and the West that would carried on into the centuries. Mothers should have scared their children into obedience with stories of Pale Destroyers from the West who came from over the sea to punish the evil of their ancestors. Old men should have looked anxiously at the sky and started at every noise that might be an aircraft.

But nooooo... The Bush Adminstration had to try to build a nation with savages.


21 posted on 08/13/2021 6:08:25 AM PDT by Little Ray (Civilization runs on a narrow margin. What sustains it is not magic, but hard work. )
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To: Red Badger

I don’t think saving Afghan women from savagery is worth spending forever in Afghanistan.


22 posted on 08/13/2021 6:08:56 AM PDT by euram
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To: joe fonebone

Afghanistan is a nation in name only. It is multiple tribal areas with little alligence to the central government. The only cohesive force and philosophy in these tribal areas is radical Islam and thus the success of the radical Islamic Taliban.

Those that oppose the Taliban are scared sh-tless for their own life, the life of their spouse and children.


23 posted on 08/13/2021 6:09:18 AM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, consultant, pilot instructor, pharmacist , retired now)
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To: Yo-Yo
To put it in perspective, we went to an all volunteer force shortly after Viet Nam ended. I was on active duty from 76-84. During those 8 years, I saw great improvements in the AVF. The early years weren't much fun at all, it was a struggle to maintain order and discipline, but we did it.

My last two years in Germany, my battalion improved from a C-3 to C-1, combat ready. We had great leadership, and our battalion commander focused on getting rid of the bad eggs. It took a ton of paperwork, but we got rid of over 60 bad soldiers, or about 10% of the battalion.

The message was sent to others: the Old Man's not playing, better get your stuff together. He took a lot of flak from higher HQ, but he kept on marching.

When I left active duty in 84, I could see the improvement in our Army. Afghans were give 20 years, and accomplished nothing.

24 posted on 08/13/2021 6:09:21 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Red Badger

Afghanistan was never going to end well, regardless of wno was in the White House when it happened.


25 posted on 08/13/2021 6:13:16 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Night Hides Not
In the 1970s the US military was in very bad shape.

There are thousands of examples.

In the 1980s the military improved dramatically.

Like you said they restored discipline and got rid of many of the screw ups.

It was a thankless job and the good people were often sabotaged by the political bureaucrats.

Who was your battalion commander who got things done right?

26 posted on 08/13/2021 6:22:06 AM PDT by detective
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To: Red Badger
This small sequence of Twitter posts is all you need to know about how dysfunctional, corrupt, and fouled up the U.S. foreign/military policy leadership has been over the last two decades:


27 posted on 08/13/2021 6:33:09 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: Red Badger

The global political establishment are completely removed from the real world. 1.) You can never trust any Muslim to keep their word. It is an inherent part of their death cult and written in their pedophile prophet’s book, The Quran. Ergo, you can never negotiate and type of deal with them; business, political and otherwise. 2.) Sending money (aid) to hell holes like Afghanistan is like flushing it down the toilet. The idea that these scum can have anything like a western government and participate in the 21st century is ridiculous. They belong in the 7th century or hell. If we do anything we should help them with either of those options.


28 posted on 08/13/2021 6:41:05 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (“When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.” ― Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Red Badger

“ The White House can ...”

The NY Post. They can’t manage to be just a little bit Democrat

Say ‘Biden’. Or They Biden administration’ or ‘President Biden’

They would do that if it were someone else in particular

This is on Biden.


29 posted on 08/13/2021 6:50:05 AM PDT by stanne
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To: JonPreston
Hey, but they are not white and they are not angry so Thoroughly Modern Milley doesn't give a care. He only cares about “The White Supremacists” that lurk in the military ranks.
30 posted on 08/13/2021 6:52:15 AM PDT by Chgogal (#GulagNancy is going all Cuba on Trump Supporters.)
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To: Red Badger

BTTT


31 posted on 08/13/2021 6:52:34 AM PDT by Chgogal (#GulagNancy is going all Cuba on Trump Supporters.)
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To: Magnatron
1. Bin Laden was killed during Obama's term.

2. It was the US’ business for it not to end well for Afghanistan.

32 posted on 08/13/2021 6:56:56 AM PDT by Chgogal (#GulagNancy is going all Cuba on Trump Supporters.)
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To: Red Badger

Apparently, Biden is fumbling the exit from Afghanistan in monumental style to underscore our loss there. The primary blame for these last 20 years there, however, goes to George W Bush. We accomplished our objective within three months of rightfully going there. The objective was to send this backward tribal society that housed terrorist training camps that did great harm to the US a strong message of force that they understand. That message consisted of bombing them and displacing their Taliban leadership, at least temporarily, with other backward warring tribal societies and groups, like the Pashtun and Northern Alliance, that were equally undemocratic, but, at least, were less hostile to the US, and then leave and allow them to return to their centuries of tribal warfare with a new mindset that the US was not to be a target of their tribal wars. Kudos to him at that point. It was when he changed the mission to “bringing democracy” to these backward warring tribes after accomplishing our objective that he blew it. Simply put, you can’t dress a warthog in the tuxedo of democracy. There are limits.

Ask yourself this. Has there been any nation in history, other than the US, that rebuilt a nation they defeated after a war? With war, it is less costly to instill fear to achieve an objective than look for love. Machiavelli was right. When it comes to the Prince’s enemies, it is better (or, at least, less costly) for the Prince to be feared than loved


33 posted on 08/13/2021 7:02:45 AM PDT by chuckee
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To: Red Badger

Our politicians have never understood War and our Generals
“kiss butt” and go along with them.

If you send American Troops in to harms way there should be one objective.

Identify the enemy, pull all battlefield lawyers out of the area, establish objectives , such as (wipe out the enemy) then leave when the objective is accomplished.

Take all of your troops, weapons and gear and leave.
Rebuilding is the enemies job and if they don’t want us to come back they won’t repeat the same mistakes.


34 posted on 08/13/2021 7:05:18 AM PDT by VicVanleeuwenhoek
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To: chuckee

Very well put !


35 posted on 08/13/2021 7:05:51 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Red Badger
Buy-DUNG 5hits on the grave of every fallen U.S. warrior of the Afghan war!
36 posted on 08/13/2021 7:31:01 AM PDT by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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To: Night Hides Not
When I left active duty in 84, I could see the improvement in our Army.

I was in the Air Force for a single enlistment from 1977 to 1981. I was a "gung ho" Airman, but most of the people I worked for were stoner leftovers who couldn't find a job anywhere else. Some Airmen even tried to start a UNION, ferchristssake.

I got disgusted and left in 81, just as Ronaldus Magnus took office. The period right after I left was the "golden age" to be in the service, and I missed it.

37 posted on 08/13/2021 8:11:23 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Red Badger

The DNC is no better than the Taliban or the Afgan politicians - the corruption is the same.


38 posted on 08/13/2021 8:12:35 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: cpdiii

Good post in a sea of I told you sos


39 posted on 08/13/2021 8:22:19 AM PDT by wardaddy (Girls...in the end ....it's about them )
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To: Little Ray

Nice little ray


40 posted on 08/13/2021 8:22:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (Girls...in the end ....it's about them )
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