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Your ‘Fur-Babies’ Are Not A Good Or Healthy Replacement For Human Babies
The Federalist ^ | August 6, 2021 | Nathanial Blake

Posted on 08/06/2021 6:51:53 AM PDT by Kaslin

Replacing babies with pets stifles a person’s capacity to give and receive love, as it wrongly directs our greatest earthly affections toward ourselves.


In a recent Fox News piece, sociologist Andrea Laurent-Simpson writes of the emergence of “multispecies families,” explaining that in “child-free families…dogs and cats paw in to fill a longing to nurture” and would-be grandparents “readily shift over to spoiling the granddog as their daughters and sons choose instead to pursue lucrative careers.” But this is neither good nor new.

The ancient historian Plutarch began his life of Pericles with an anecdote about Caesar, who, upon seeing “wealthy foreigners in Rome carrying puppies and young monkeys about in their bosoms and fondling them” asked, “if the women in their country did not bear children.” Plutarch thought this a “princely” rebuke of “those who squander on animals that proneness to love and loving affection which is ours by nature, and which is due only to our fellow-men.”

Another ancient text tells us that there is nothing new under the sun. There is certainly nothing new about treating pets as substitutes for children, though it does seem to be more common of late, a trend that debases us and deforms our pets — literally in some cases. The overbreeding of dogs has, for instance, produced breeds that struggle to breathe or routinely need C-sections to give birth. If these people love dogs, then it is with a selfish and consumerist sort of love.

Dogs Are Good Beasts — But Still Beasts

Of course, we ought to love our pets. But this love must be directed to them as the animals they are, rather than as mere objects for our amusement, or as substitutes for children. I love my dogs and try to take good care of them. They were bred to be loveable, and they are entertaining and affectionate. And they have a place in family life. With the right training and supervision, dogs and kids are great for each other. My daughter really, really loves our dogs. Notably, neither she nor the dogs are confused about who is the human. That sort of disordered affection requires an adult.

Pets may be valuable companions to the lonely and childless, but it is perverse to make this palliative measure into a preference, deliberately rejecting children in favor of a pampered pet. Dogs are capable of giving and receiving affection, but there is a point past which the personalities that enthusiastic owners ascribe to them are anthropomorphic projections. In such cases, pets are treated like animate dolls — repositories of the interpersonal needs and longings of their owners. The substitution of pets for people thereby stifles a person’s capacity to give and receive love, as it wrongly directs our greatest earthly affections toward ourselves.

The proliferation of twee “dog moms” and “fur babies” and “grandpuppies” illustrates American self-indulgence and cultural decadence. Marriage and birth rates are declining as people abandon the basic biological imperative of pairing off and having children. Filling the interpersonal void with dogs is an understandable response to this.

But what we need are other persons. We are, in important ways, incomplete and not fully human on our own. As Aristotle long ago noted, man is a social animal, and a man who can live without others must be either a beast or a god — people who don’t need people aren’t really people.

The Christian may add that in exceptional circumstances or vocations a few people may need to rely entirely on animal companionship and the person of God, but there is no good reason to deliberately turn to beasts in place of persons.

The Human Condition Requires New Humans

Trying to turn pets into substitute children gives the game away. It is the very old trick of having one’s cake and eating it too. This substitution is an attempt to satisfy the human longings to love and nurture new persons, and to be loved by them in turn, without the labor, responsibility and risk of having children. But there is no substituting for the human person, and even the best of pets is only a shadow of a copy of the reality of human family.

The difference is one of depth. The mature and the wise have pleasures and satisfactions, as well as pains, of which the childish and foolish know nothing. Parenting requires much more self-giving and self-sacrifice than having a pet, but it also provides a fuller and more substantial life. The best dog in the world is nothing compared to the begetting of a new person through the loving union of a mother and father united for life and dedicated to the care of their children.

But for many, this increasingly seems like an impossible ideal. It is easy to direct (deserved) opprobrium at the apostles of the “child-free interspecies family” lifestyle, but this does little to help those who feel that a stable marriage and children are out of reach. Thus, we must work, culturally and politically, to make it easier for people to form and maintain families, and for those who remain single to still be involved in family life. If we do not do this, we may find our nation literally going to the dogs.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: babies; beasts; birthrates; children; dogs; furbabies; grandparents; humans; love; marriage; mgtow; parents; pets; redpill
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To: Kaslin

Totally false to compare love of a pet to love of a child even if there is an inclination to treat a pet as one would a child. Animals love unconditionally but you can’t say the same about people.


81 posted on 08/06/2021 10:53:24 AM PDT by yetidog
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

The story is cleopatra used asps to commit suicide, not murder. She had them smuggled in a jar or dates or something.

The poison is (apparently) quite painless, a neurotoxin, and you just go to sleep and don’t wake up. So it has been a pretty common method of suicide back home for 4000 years.

The main issue with the story is an “asp” is more properly known as the Egyptian cobra, and it’s a big black snake that quickly grows to 1.5 meters. So it’s unlikely to be able to be smuggled in a jar of any kind.

That said you could probably get several juveniles and get the job done.


82 posted on 08/06/2021 10:53:28 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Valpal1

...First.


83 posted on 08/06/2021 11:17:05 AM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: setter

Exactly.

I have two daughters and I’ve had pets my whole life. I love my daughters and I have loved all my pets.

My daughters don’t want children. I am happy they know that now rather than figuring it out after the fact.


84 posted on 08/06/2021 11:22:17 AM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: Jewbacca

I saw a “history” show that said Cleopatra experimented on prisoners to see which method would produce the most dignified death.


85 posted on 08/06/2021 11:23:49 AM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: CrazyCatChick

I am curious, how did they learn not to want children.

It is one of the basic human needs and emotions yet I am running into more young people who are somehow trained not to want children.

Tragic


86 posted on 08/06/2021 11:54:15 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Jewbacca

Ah, that’s right, suicide.

I live in Maine, which claims to be the only state without poisonous snakes in the U.S.A.

Those snakes in Israel sound nasty.

I’m glad we don’t have asps here, although we do have asses in our Congressional delegation, and a number of snakes in our state government.


87 posted on 08/06/2021 12:00:31 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I like oil. I like gasoline. I like coal. I like natural gas. I like nuclear power. )
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To: Chickensoup

“Learn” and “train?”

Maybe it’s genetic. I think the tragedy would be to bring a baby into a family who doesn’t want him.

There are lots of people in the world with lots of different ways they want to live.


88 posted on 08/06/2021 12:02:13 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: CrazyCatChick

I dont think it is genetic.

Children are taught that the world is going to end in environmental disaster, that children are too much work, that having children is overwhelming, that they are too expensive and so on, by parents, schools, culture computer tv...


89 posted on 08/06/2021 12:05:14 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: Chickensoup

All I know is that my girls, one biological and one adopted, were both wanted and cherished and were well brought up.

I was not driven to have children. I’m pretty sure my mother was not driven to have children. I think there is some genetic component. YMMV


90 posted on 08/06/2021 12:08:28 PM PDT by CrazyCatChick (But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

The definition of anthropomorphism is the act of giving the characteristics of humans to an animal, a god or an inanimate thing. ... Attribution of human motivation, characteristics, or behavior to inanimate objects, animals, or natural phenomena.

I love my two Wirehaired Pointing Griffons but we all know in the end they’re the dogs! Having said that they are also my closes hunting companions and I miss my hunting dogs greatly when one passes!


91 posted on 08/06/2021 12:16:21 PM PDT by BirdHunter24 (Restore the 10th Amendment)
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To: Responsibility2nd
how many veterans need emotional support dogs. When in fact they need to go back in time, grow up in a functional family and environment, and then go off to war. Maybe I’m wrong. Maybe I missed seeing millions of WWII vets some 60 years ago with Sergeant on a leash in the local restaurant.

What has changed, and changed dramatically, it the survival rate of combat injuries, which in the Afghanistan-Iraq wars was much greater than Vietnam (I heard figures from 5X to 20X greater); also the much more powerful explosives used by the enemy in the Afghanistan-Iraq wars comparied to Vietnam or earlier wars, so that soldiers much farther from the point of explosions (many that they couldn't even see) experienced brain injury or deafness.

Traumatic brain injury (TBI) as well as survival via amputations plus prosthetics plus intensive physical/occupational therapy, as well as better and closer field hospitals and improved medical techniques at point of injury, have saved many lives of troops who would have bled out and died on the field or led lives as shut-ins, unseen by civilians after the war.

Please put up with those miraculous support dogs who can help guide an ambulatory-but-disabled vet, such as alerting their veteran to an oncoming epileptic seizure caused by brain injury so that the vet can quickly move to a suitable fall-down spot and not reinjure his head, or fall against the bathroom door, making it impossible for his family to get to him and make sure his airway is clear, for two examples. One of the toughest parts of re-entry to civilian life for a brain-injured vet is the difficulty of complete brain recovery and the fact that the injury is invisible to the naked eye.

I myself once yelled at a seemingly healthy-looking vet for parking in a disabled spot, when in fact he may have been hearing-impaired or still been having seizures unexpectedly and needed to get in and out of the store without undue stress. Brain-injured vets don't look injured to the rest of us.

Just some of the things I learned as a civilian volunteer at Walter Reed with the DC Chapter of FreeRepublic.com.

92 posted on 08/06/2021 12:32:10 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t have to send them to college...


93 posted on 08/06/2021 12:34:13 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: AppyPappy
Go to Reddit so you can see the underbelly of the world

Reddit's "Am I the A**hole" feature is today's version of the grocery store tabloids or the old True Confessions magazine from the 1950s!

94 posted on 08/06/2021 12:37:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: Kaslin

my four legged son can’t be indoctrinated to hate me and our country...


95 posted on 08/06/2021 12:43:30 PM PDT by heavy metal (smiling improves your face value as well as making people wonder what the hell you're up to... 😁)
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To: rlmorel

I have three dogs I love dearly but humans always come first in my considerations.


96 posted on 08/06/2021 12:43:31 PM PDT by PCPOET7 (`)
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To: HamiltonJay; cyclotic; rlmorel
“It’s an animal. Their loyalty to you ends when the food ends.”

this is not a true statement for all pets. Some... animals, dogs in particular, can be fiercely loyal to their owners...

I agree, HamiltonJay. There's a difference between gushing anthropomorphically about a pet as distinct from recognizing and cultivating their unique intelligence and skill levels.

I was fortunate to study a lot about animal behavior when I was young. Cats, in addition to powerful instincts, have the intellectual ability of a two-year-old child and can learn basic concepts and verbal cues about the activities they share with the humans they live with, becoming less anxious and more cooperative as members of a household.

I have trained my succession of cats systematically, chiefly through operant conditioning (with affection and treats as rewards), to respond to as many as 65 words or phrases. They have demonstrated their understanding by "obeying" like a dog, often amazing to my friends and neighbors.

When you lose the companionship of such capable individuals in whom you have invested training and enjoyed an extra level of communication, it's a very sad day. But still, it's not like losing a child.

97 posted on 08/06/2021 1:10:23 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: setter

God bless your uncle. I had several with similar stories from WW2. I wish, as a family, we had, at the time, some understanding of PTSD, instead of grumbling about the occasions when they were grouchy or uncommunicative. They were heroes.


98 posted on 08/06/2021 1:14:48 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation; Jewbacca

99 posted on 08/06/2021 1:23:45 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late." —Bob Dylan)
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To: Albion Wilde

Too many of them seem fabricated. I finally punched out.
Try AskAnAmerican


100 posted on 08/06/2021 1:39:13 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston? )
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