Posted on 07/13/2021 7:11:52 PM PDT by CodeToad
A federal appeals court ruled Thursday that federal laws banning firearms dealers from selling handguns to customers under the age of 21 were unconstitutional.
The United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit said in the decision that there was no reason to treat the Second Amendment any differently from other constitutional rights citizens enjoy no later than the age of 18. The court ruled that 18-year-olds possess Second Amendment rights, and the federal government failed “to justify its infringement of those rights under the appropriate level of scrutiny.”
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My FIL went to military school as a teenager, and at 17 was sent to fight in Italy. He rarely talked about the atrocities he witnessed, even when asked directly. In fact, he would be downright uncomfortable and give as few details as possible. My sons asked him once when they were in middle school and studying WWII. He was unwilling to say very much at all, and left the room very upset. He earned several medals that my husband now has framed. Rest In Peace, Pops. Miss you.
In 1972 at age 18, I did Army boot camp at Fort Ord, CA. We could buy beer in the enlisted clubs on base. We were told it was “3.2” beer.
Here in Idaho, you can possess the fireworks legally, you just can’t use them.
Stop the pigeon! Stop the pigeon!
But you still cannot legally carry a handgun if you are under 21. The Tennessee Firearms Association is working on that.
Didn’t the ban originate from GCA 1968?
It is state laws in general that limit booze sales.
The fedgov just won’t give you highway money unless you do it.
However, Trumps action on cigarettes was unconstitutional,
Hmm, in 1969 while 18 years old, and while I was attending AIT at Fort Gordon, GA as an E-2 we could get served beer, not hard liquor, in the EM club, just not off base in Augusta.
We did sometimes drive the 20 miles to Aiken, SC where the drinking age was still 18.
Thanks for that. I usually prefer to read the decisions.
I’ve had issue with this forever. If we put an 19 year old in the back of a APC or a Humvee with a machine gun and ask them to go die for us, but they come back and can’t own a firearm....................no effing sense.
Guns, Drinking, and voting seems to be withheld from the 18-21 crowd but the draft was not. Seems either someone is 18 and an adult or not.
Which of The Bill of Rights enumerates drinking beer?
Why can't SCOTUS,once and for all,make it clear that "shall not be infringed" applies to every city and town,every county and every state in the nation???
Even at Fort Benning, GA you could not purchase booze at an EM club. They even have Georgia Alcohol Board members checking the clubs. When you enter the club, they stamped your wrist so that the waitress could see your ID card had been checked and you were 21 or over!! At Jackson, maybe the county had a law, I don’t know, but we could not get booze. I am from Alabama and you could not buy booze under age 21 here either back then. We always went to a guy that was a local bootlegger, who went to what in Alabama is called the ABC Store (Alabama Beverage Control Store). You had always pay him more for a couple of cans. I remember one of my buddies was always driving over to his house and getting beer. Everyone knew he was the guy to go too. He had two or three iceboxes full of beer to sell to mostly teens or some local drunks!!
Yup. I remember that 3 point one or two beer. That sold that crap in Nam also. Guys said you had to drink 10 cans of it to get a buzz on.
HUGH, even
Mr. SHERMAN, was for securing the rights of the people where requisite. The State Declarations of Rights are not repealed by this Constitution; and being in force are sufficient.
https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/debates_912.asp
See also the 10th amendment. This is a jurisdictional issue. Every state, thankfully, has its own Bill of Rights.
We do not have "one big nation", the Founders repeatedly warned against that sort of dangerous scenario. - commonly, when referring to Montesquieu who was one of the important intellects behind the idea that big republics are big failures. We do not want "one big nation", we want the states to have powers and rights to use against the federal government. We want our localities empowered.
Let's take for example Texas, their constitution states:
THE TEXAS CONSTITUTIONARTICLE 1. BILL OF RIGHTS
Sec. 23. RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS. Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime.
This would, reasonably, allow for passing laws to (legally) disallow pre-teens from owning or purchasing firearms.
Iowa is perhaps even more interesting, as they are currently working to advance a "second amendment" for the Iowa State Constitution where they currently do not have one. They need one.
The states are generally more conservative than Washington D.C., so I will always side with the states having this kind of power over granting it to the Federal government.
I’m a native of South Carolina. When I was eighteen I could buy beer but not hard liquor and I could NOT vote. Now an eighteen year old can vote but CANNOT buy beer.
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