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The Inflation Or Deflation/Disinflation Debate Continues: Which Perspective is Closer to Economic Reality?
Real Investment Advice ^ | 04/18/2021 | David Robertson

Posted on 04/18/2021 1:31:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Several positive developments over the last several months have dramatically improved the near-term outlook for the economy. Accelerating vaccine rollouts, increasing business activity, continued monetary policy, and substantial new doses of fiscal spending contribute to the potential for higher economic output. All these factors, however, are also increasing concerns about inflation, and rightly so.

The good news is there is plenty of commentaries that provide valuable updates and insights for investors to monitor the situation. The less good news is there is no easy answer to the debate between inflation and deflation/disinflation. A significant challenge, then, is figuring out how to incorporate an uncertain path for inflation into an investment strategy.

Commentary

One of the interesting characteristics of commentary about inflation (or most investment topics, for that matter) is the one-sided nature of arguments. Most commentaries make a pitch, for or against, and rattles off as much supporting evidence as possible.

Another interesting phenomenon exacerbates this tendency: There seems to be competition to produce the cleverest insight. Such is understandable to a large degree since authors are keen to build their reputations based on insights that prove to be correct. However, the very notion that there even exists a “right” answer from which attentive investors might reap a windfall belies the grinding uncertainty of an issue like inflation.

Inflation

We can observe these characteristics in the arguments for inflation. Arguably the most common view for inflation is massively increasing the money supply. Anyone looking at a money supply chart would wonder about its sustainability.

There are many different permutations of this theme. One view relies to some degree on faith that vast piles of money will eventually find their way into the economy but is agnostic as to how that happens. Another view is that governments will increasingly get involved in the lending process (by backstopping loans, for example), which will significantly ramp up the speed of the money creation process. Both get supported by a longer-term historical perspective that points to inflation as the preferred manner by which to manage excessive levels of sovereign debt.

As is often the case, these arguments are compelling. If you listen to a few of these reports and then observe food and gas and lumber prices going up, it is easy to start getting nervous about any cash you may have lying around.

Deflation

The arguments for deflation/disinflation are also highly compelling, however. One of the more prominent commentators in this camp is Lacy Hunt at Hoisington Investment Management. His case is straightforward, as he reveals in Hoisington’s first-quarter review:

“The two main structural impediments to traditional U.S. and global economic growth are massive debt overhang and deteriorating demographics. High debt levels undermine economic growth. This causality is supported by the law of diminishing returns, derived from the universally applicable production function. The inflationary psychosis that has gripped the bond market will fade away in the face of such persistent disinflation.”

So, the arguments for deflation are also compelling. Such creates quite a challenge. If the rationale for both inflation and deflation are believable and well-substantiated, how does one reconcile the perspectives? Which is right and which is wrong?

Assumptions

An excellent place to start, as is often the case, is with the assumptions. How strongly do we believe in them? In other words, what needs to happen for the argument to hold?” Any absence of conviction weakens the argument.

For example, in the inflation argument, much of the rationale is based on the rapidly expanding money supply. Such isn’t difficult to accept as money needs to get into the hands of people who will spend it. However, it gets stuck in the financial system. Increasing labor costs could be part of the formula. Still, after the beat down by the union organizing effort at the Amazon facility in Bessemer, AL, there appears to be little systemic pressure in that direction either.

An expanded loan program backstopped by the Fed, such as the PPP loans, could work but seems most likely to be episodic. Additional fiscal spending could also work but would require significant and regular outlays. Given the polarized political environment, that too seems unlikely.

Further, because the US dollar is the dominant global reserve currency, the US dollar would also have to underperform on the international stage for inflation to take hold. Such is no small feat since the US still compares well to major developed markets and most emerging markets. For example, Lacy Hunt points out, “The comparatively worse debt overhang in the Euro Area and Japan indicates the U.S. should continue to be the growth leader.”

History

The inertia of nearly forty years of disinflation and declining inflation make the possibility for significant inflation a tall order.

That isn’t to say the assumptions behind the deflation case are any less demanding. For deflation to prevail, one would have to assume the Fed dramatically and sustainably reverses the course of monetary policy. After continuing “emergency” measures for thirteen years after the financial crisis and basking in the media as “the only game in town,” the Fed would have to suddenly and humbly unwind its monetary interventions.

In the event of significant market turmoil (such as what occurred in March 2020), it would have to sit on the sidelines quietly. Hard to believe.

Additional assumptions behind the deflation thesis rely on current laws and conventions in place regardless of the future environment. For example, the Fed could not violate its charter to lend and not spend. As Harley Bassman proposed, the Fed would not buy gold from citizens at $5,000 an ounce. Nor would the Fed’s liabilities ever be allowed to become legal tender.

As a result, it is easy to arrive at a similar conclusion. While the case for deflation is compelling, it’s just not hard to identify ways it could be thwarted, especially in the event of highly adverse conditions.

Any loss in the dollar value would also have to overcome the significant demand for dollars in the Eurodollar market. For this to happen, vast volumes of trade contracts would have to get rewritten, and safer and more liquid assets than US Treasuries would need to get established.

A Different Perspective

While there is plenty of data about inflation, it isn’t easy to comprehend it fully. As Rusty Guinn from Epsilon empathizes in What Do We Need To Be True?, however, uncertainty is an inherent characteristic of the phenomenon:

“I don’t know how to predict how and when the old narrative [e.g., “we live in a deflationary world”] will die. I don’t know how to predict when the new narrative that replaces it will be born.”

This perspective subtly but significantly reframes the debate about inflation. It is not a contest to be won or lost between two competing entities. Instead, it is a social construct that arises from common knowledge, or what everybody believes everybody believes.

In reframing the debate about inflation, Guinn not only comments on the inherent uncertainty of the argument (the birth and death of narratives is unpredictable) but goes one step further to identify the gauntlet of pre-existing beliefs that must get overcome for a narrative to change:

“And if we want to know what will cause the crowd to change its mind about the water in which it swims [current narrative of disinflation], I think that we also must get in the habit of asking a different question – a question that is at once a fundamental query of both information theory and game theory … What do we need to be true?”

Guinn’s use of the words “What do we need to be true?” refers more specifically to the set of assumptions used to build business models, power structures, and investment plans in an environment of low inflation. The belief that “we live in a deflationary world” has gotten deeply embedded in many of these. Because any change in beliefs will pose ostensibly existential risks to several vested interests, such interests serve as barriers to change.

Takeaways

One takeaway from the discussion is the debate between inflation and deflation/disinflation is inherently uncertain. Not only are the assumptions behind each case credibly at risk of being invalidated, but the narratives behind each case are also inherently unpredictable.

As a result, it doesn’t make much sense to “win” the argument by figuring out whether inflation or deflation will prevail. For example, if you believe inflation will stay, are you willing to bet everything that financial asset values are well supported and can’t get revalued much lower? Because if asset values collapse, there will be a massive deflation.

By the same token, if you believe in deflation, are you willing to bet everything that when the crap hits the fan, that rules limiting the Fed’s actions won’t suddenly become much more optional? Because if that happens, inflation will jump quickly.

While the tendency to make directional bets is understandable, the increasing ambiguity around the inflation issue suggests a more appropriate portfolio approach. In a sense, constructing a portfolio designed to weather very different possible future environments isn’t an incredibly innovative proposition.

What it is, however, is a break from the past. It is a break from the 60/40 mindset, and it is a break from almost everything that has defined the investment landscape over the last forty years. It is also a break from the conditions that have guided the fortunes of a couple of generations of business leaders, money managers, and financial advisors. So, a portfolio approach regarding inflation might also be just the thing to prevent you from going down with everyone else who could not adapt to a new reality.


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1 posted on 04/18/2021 1:31:22 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Everything is smaller and costs more so I say inflation.


2 posted on 04/18/2021 1:37:01 PM PDT by refermech
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To: SeekAndFind

I took a couple of Econ courses at University. Nothing too advanced but I always thought that money supply has to increase at least in proportion to the population. There probably are some theories and names for that concept but I didn’t get that far in the courses. It wasn’t my major.


3 posted on 04/18/2021 1:39:28 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: refermech

I’d say inflation too. There is something to the argument that debt service hampers growth potential. It happens on a micro level some or another business gets over-leveraged. On a large economic macro view it’s harder to wrap the head around it. They’ll just print more money right?

Some of the ideas in the article seem to be thoughts about longer term economic changes. In the intermediate term, I am firmly in the camp of inflation or possibly worse stagflation. In my line of work, the input costs have only gone up up up over the last 6 months maybe a lot to do with energy costs and a lot to do with supply not meeting demand as various sectors/countries are either trying to re-open and/or are having more difficulties with output because of labor issues and covid regulations raising the costs and slowing production of most basic goods.


4 posted on 04/18/2021 1:46:19 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: SeekAndFind

Debt destruction followed by deflation.

Asset deflation in large cities like NY and LA
Asset inflation in smaller towns


5 posted on 04/18/2021 1:53:41 PM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: SeekAndFind

An oldie but goodie...

Raise the Debt Ceiling Rap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoS52fVtVQM

Just use Cuomo’s name in place of Strauss-Kahn


6 posted on 04/18/2021 2:06:33 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (O Lord, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Psalm 8:9)
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To: refermech
There's a difference between price inflation and monetary deflation.

Price inflation is often seen during deflationary times, as businesses raise their prices as a last effort to meet their debt load and avoid bankruptcy.

However, we are not in a deflationary period right now - and not really inflationary (in a monetary sense) either.

If the Demonrats are successful at doing things like cancelling debt (student loans, etc.) then that will put large deflationary pressure on the economy, as the money supply will drop by the same amount as the cancelled debt.

7 posted on 04/18/2021 2:10:42 PM PDT by politicket (Don't remove a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker. It's the only thing holding the car together!)
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To: monkeyshine
The chart below is a good illustration of how things work when it comes to inflation. Most of these discussions are based on money SUPPLY, but what is usually overlooked is the impact of money VELOCITY.

Notice how much the velocity of money slowed down after the 2008 financial crisis, and cratered during the COVID fiasco.

It may sound counter-intuitive, but the velocity of money usually slows down in a big way when government spending grows by leaps and bounds.


8 posted on 04/18/2021 2:11:23 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("And once in a night I dreamed you were there; I canceled my flight from going nowhere.")
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To: politicket
"Money" is simply the total supply of debt.

Even our currency (except coinage) is represented by debt on the other side of the balance sheet (Notes, Bonds, Bills, etc.).

9 posted on 04/18/2021 2:12:58 PM PDT by politicket (Don't remove a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker. It's the only thing holding the car together!)
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To: Alberta's Child

A lot of the velocity slowing is due to the international banks now sitting on over $4 trillion in deposits - being paid interest on it - but it will never circulate into the economy, thus no velocity.


10 posted on 04/18/2021 2:14:46 PM PDT by politicket (Don't remove a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker. It's the only thing holding the car together!)
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To: Alberta's Child
Actually, it's currently at $5.3 trillion dollars, as can be seen on the Fed's weekly H.4.1 report - page 7.

https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h41/current/h41.pdf

11 posted on 04/18/2021 2:18:22 PM PDT by politicket (Don't remove a Bernie Sanders bumper sticker. It's the only thing holding the car together!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I just got back from the supermarket. The food prices took my breath away. They must be up 20% in the past year.


12 posted on 04/18/2021 2:19:10 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (The Weak Never Started, The Cowards fail along the way, Only the Strong Survive)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well slap a label on it, but it certainly isn’t going to end well.
Devaluation of the currency through “quantitative easing” and trillions in stimulus is a given way to create all the symptoms of inflation. With China in control of all of our ports, they have far more control over the economy through scarcity/abundance of goods than the Fed. Our government is complicit in their manipulations.
Woe be it to anyone who thinks things are going to improve.
If inflation isn’t happening then the stock market is suffering from some of that “unjustified exuberance”.


13 posted on 04/18/2021 2:24:44 PM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects; starve the bastards)
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To: SeekAndFind

To be obvious, they ignored the deflationary aspects of technology. So much for their analytic skills.


14 posted on 04/18/2021 2:27:03 PM PDT by narses (Censeo praedatorium gregem esse delendum. (The gay lobby must be destroyed))
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To: SeekAndFind

The return of Stagflation.


15 posted on 04/18/2021 2:32:56 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: Alberta's Child

Interesting. Off the top of my head without further reading, I’d think that the velocity of money slows down when there are large government injections because that money creates a couple of unintended consequences. It sucks resources out of the economy, drives inflation, gets allocated to only a very small number of interests who will do quite well from it but in turn ripples of disruption to the interests outside the programs. You can spend $1 trillion to build highways, and in a decade that highway will benefit everyone. But during that decade only a few people will derive benefit from the project. Labor costs will rise as labor is redirected to the government project; material costs will rise because there is huge demand for materials to complete the project. And so on.

2008 bailout went primarily to banks and lenders. Didn’t stop the millions of foreclosures. 2021 covid “stimulus” went 91% to prop up governments and public interests and doesn’t help the private sector much at all; and public sector workers didn’t lose their jobs anyway so all that stimulus isn’t going to increase any velocity of money. It’s basically the same thing as sticking it in the bank. It won’t get spent anytime soon.

Maybe I’m far off just hazarding a guess.


16 posted on 04/18/2021 2:44:12 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s a reason Bill Gates is the largest owner of farmland in the US.

Intrinsic value.


17 posted on 04/18/2021 2:46:47 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: narses

Good point.


18 posted on 04/18/2021 2:46:49 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: politicket

All I know is my money buys less year after year. I wonder if anyone really understands the complex dynamics involved in a economy. Kind of like trying to understand and predict the weather


19 posted on 04/18/2021 2:59:46 PM PDT by refermech
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To: refermech
All I know is my money buys less year after year

In the 1800s, a one ounce gold coin was $20 and would buy you a really nice suit. Today, an ounce of gold will still buy you a really nice suit. A $20 federal reserve note? Not so much.

20 posted on 04/18/2021 3:15:46 PM PDT by Pollard ( )
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