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'I'm Very Proud of Him:' Sergeant Major of the Army Reacts to Black Lieutenant's Traffic Stop
Military.com ^ | 4/12/2021 | Gina Harkins

Posted on 04/13/2021 5:39:11 AM PDT by CodeJockey

The sergeant major of the Army commended the second lieutenant whose December traffic stop prompted a lawsuit and the firing of a Virginia police officer for remaining cool as a pair of cops pointed their weapons at him.

"Like many of you," Sergeant Major of the Army Michael Grinston tweeted Monday, "I was concerned by the video of [2nd Lt. Caron] Nazario's traffic stop in December. He represented himself and our Army well through his calm, professional response to the situation -- I'm very proud of him."

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To: Sans-Culotte

When you bolt from police and take them on a mile-and-a-half high speed chase, lights and sirens, don’t expect to play “Officer Nice Patty Cake” when you finally pull over.

When they order, more than ten times, for you to stop your engine and put your hands out of the window, just do it.

The “Uber Woke” 2nd Looie was setting the entire thing up to go down as it did, including putting on his video camera.


41 posted on 04/13/2021 6:25:57 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ScubaDiver
Wut? There was no tag visible on the car.

It was a temp tag in the rear window as is common with a newly-purchased vehicle.

42 posted on 04/13/2021 6:26:51 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (There are two kinds of people: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data.)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Could you please explain how exactly police should respond to a driver who - for no less than FOUR MINUTES - refuses to obey lawful commands during a traffic stop?

I’m all ears.


43 posted on 04/13/2021 6:27:31 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: IYAS9YAS

Was it visible?


44 posted on 04/13/2021 6:27:49 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: CodeJockey

Is there ANY doubt the US military has become as political as the FBI?

I HATE what is happening, and I’m a 25 year vet. Newsmax showed some of the otherwise unseen video last night, to include the idiot refusing to get out because “I don’t have to” and complaining how, as a serviceman, he was too special to obey a cop.

AND that he was concealing a gun on his person, while in uniform. In my day, concealed weapons were not allowed in uniform! Or out of uniform, if I’m on base. That part is still true. Don’t like it, but it is true.


45 posted on 04/13/2021 6:28:37 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: usconservative; qaz123
"Let anarchy reign upon this country. Make it like Mad Max."

>>We're well on our way to getting there. Just go to the near south side of Chicago and you'll see exactly what I mean.<<


46 posted on 04/13/2021 6:29:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: cymbeline

Saw a much longer video on Newsmax last night. Went from feeling some sympathy for the Lt to being disgusted by his behavior - and went from believing the cop was a total jerk to believing the cop had good reason to do what he did.


47 posted on 04/13/2021 6:30:32 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: ScubaDiver

That may be true. But once the cops were made aware of the valid tag things should have de-escalated immediately.

L


48 posted on 04/13/2021 6:33:47 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. , )
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To: Mr Rogers

23-year Marine vet here. DoD Directive 1344.10 is now a dead letter.

In fact, you could argue that uniformed service members now have an implicit obligation to speak out favorably on progressive politics given the public comments of SecDEF, Joint Chiefs, several service branch leaders and unified combatant commanders.

It’s a Bizzaro-world that undermines good order & discipline making our military much less likely to be able to accomplish its mission when called upon.

It’s also true that concealed weapons are not allowed on base much less on base and in a POV. For better or worse, they have to be secured and stowed in every command I’m familiar with.


49 posted on 04/13/2021 6:35:20 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Lurker

How can the be ‘made aware’ of anything while the driver refused to get out of the car and follow the commands of the police?


50 posted on 04/13/2021 6:36:21 AM PDT by ScubaDiver (Reddit refugee.)
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To: Travis McGee
When you bolt from police and take them on a mile-and-a-half high speed chase, lights and sirens, don’t expect to play “Officer Nice Patty Cake” when you finally pull over.

I don't think he "bolted" when he drove to a well-lit area. And I agree he should have been more compliant. Any time I am stopped by the police I do what they say. I just have a problem with the idea that a guy driving in his vehicle gets pulled over and told to comply over what was essentially nothing. Thank God they didn't shoot the guy.

51 posted on 04/13/2021 6:39:52 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: ScubaDiver

“How can the be ‘made aware’ of anything while the driver refused to get out of the car and follow the commands of the police?”

Maybe shine a flashlight into the rear window? Just a thought. I believe most police officers are issued them. I’m also pretty sure they have them installed in their vehicles.

L


52 posted on 04/13/2021 6:39:52 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is. , )
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To: qaz123

Q: So Sergeant Major, when you give an order to one of the E4s that work for you and it isn’t obeyed, are you proud of them?


E4’s are a special class of enlisted. There are all kinds of jokes and memes about the Spec-4 Mafia. The theoretical E-4 would magically know the Sergeant Major’s order before it came out of his mouth and so avoid the consequences before-the-fact.


53 posted on 04/13/2021 6:40:37 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Sans-Culotte

Of course you are. Nothing wrong with it. I used to be a cop and I don’t like them that much either. Especially when I got a speeding ticket a couple of months ago. I think I wrote one in my 10+ years, but gave plenty of warnings, even to folks that were jerks.

Again, the Lt is the one to blame. He could have handled this much differently and he would have been on his way.

Of course this traffic stop was just a routine, let me f*ck with someone, just like this one

https://www.google.com/amp/s/kfoxtv.com/amp/news/local/video-shows-moment-new-mexico-officer-killed-during-traffic-stop-when-asked-for-rifle

If he had his tag properly displayed we wouldn’t be typing about it.

If he had just followed the cop lawful orders, per SCOTUS, we wouldn’t be typing about it.

If he wasn’t a SJW in a uniform we wouldn’t be typing about it.

Again, reach out to him and ask him what he does when a PFC or Specialist doesn’t do what he tells them to do.

This Lt is the type who got his commission because the ROTC commander just passed him off to the next guy.


54 posted on 04/13/2021 6:42:16 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

Actually he was doing his job. May seem chickensh*t to you hero, but it was a valid traffic stop that could have been over and done with in about 5 mins or less.


Agreed. It is called — or used to be called — police work. That broken tail light can lead you to a fugitive arrest. Which is what was about to happen in that Minneapolis suburb until the unfortunate incident with mistaking a service weapon with a taser.


55 posted on 04/13/2021 6:43:30 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Sans-Culotte

Watch this “routine traffic stop” for why normal cops would be super hyped up after a 1.5 mile high speed chase.

“Just going to a well lit area” is the Uber Woke 2nd LTs version of events, as he planned his Viral Video and set up his camera.

Watch it all, but here is a “routine traffic stop.” Roll film.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgBMnJyOiT0&t=137s&ab_channel=TheOfficerTatum


56 posted on 04/13/2021 6:43:37 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Tallguy

You ain’t lying. But he isn’t ignoring an order or he can kiss E5 goodbye and get out as an E4


57 posted on 04/13/2021 6:44:01 AM PDT by qaz123
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To: qaz123

GMTA, see 56.

This is the type of Uber Woke Proggy Officer the DOD wants to retain, while they drive out white Christian conservatives as “extremists.”

This 2nd Looie, who set up his camera to record his planned viral video, is just the type who will be glad to lead gun confiscation raids, Constitution be damned.

It’s just an old parchment written by evil white slave holders.


58 posted on 04/13/2021 6:46:33 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: NYleatherneck; farming pharmer

“My understanding is that the guy had a loaded pistol on the passenger seat”

“That might be completely legal in Virginia.”

My info is about 20 years old but...it is perfectly legal to carry a loaded firearm in your vehicle as long as it is IN PLAIN SIGHT.
If it is not in plain sight then you must have a concealed carry permit.

Also the story stated that the temporary tag was visible through the rear window. A no no in Virginia.
The ONLY place a tag may be legally placed is on the tag carrier. Usually on the front and rear bumpers.
If they pulled him over for illegal display of a tag he would have probably gotten instruction on the proper display of the tag, examination of his paperwork and license.

By refusing to pull over promptly he started out on the wrong foot. Believe me, I know.
By being uncooperative he made the situation worse.
Every step along the way the Lt made the worst possible choice.


59 posted on 04/13/2021 6:46:37 AM PDT by oldvirginian (My appearance? When I look in the mirror my reflection swoon at my manly good looks)
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To: Lurker

See the video at 56 for why these officers were fully hyped up, guns ready, after a 1.5 mile lights and sirens chase.

They did not know the 2nd LT had his viral video all planned and set up, camera running.


60 posted on 04/13/2021 6:48:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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