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Electric Vehicles Are the U.S. Auto Industry’s Future—If Dealers Can Figure Out How to Sell Them
The Wall Street Journal ^ | March 7, 2021 | Nora Naughton |

Posted on 03/07/2021 8:08:35 PM PST by MinorityRepublican

Car dealer Brad Sowers is spending money to prepare for the coming wave of new electric models from General Motors Co. He is installing charging stations, upgrading service bays and retraining staff at his St. Louis-area dealership to handle the technology-packed vehicles.

But when he considers how many plug-in Chevy Bolts he sold last year—nine, out of the nearly 4,000 Chevrolets sold at his Missouri dealerships—it gives him pause.

“The consumer in the middle of America just isn’t there yet,” when it comes to switching to electric vehicles, he said, citing the long distances many of his customers drive daily and a lack of charging infrastructure outside major cities.

As auto executives and investors buzz about the coming age of the electric car, many dealers say they are struggling to square that enthusiasm with the reality today on new-car sales lots, where last year battery-powered vehicles made up fewer than 2% of U.S. auto sales.

Most consumers who come to showrooms aren’t shopping for electric cars, and with gasoline prices relatively low, even hybrid models can be a tough sell, dealers and industry analysts say.

Auto makers are moving aggressively to expand their electric-vehicle offerings with dozens of new models set to arrive in coming years. Some like GM are setting firm targets for when they plan to phase out gas-powered cars entirely.

(Excerpt) Read more at wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: autonomousvehicles; chatforum; elonmusk; ev; fakenews; fastcharging; fossilfuelforever; tesla; v8powerbaby
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To: TexasGator
Plus the window sticker gives the equivalent miles per gallon.

There is no equivalent.

If there is; I want to see the math and science, not just some website 'saying so'.

301 posted on 03/08/2021 12:45:52 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“dont recall”

https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/01/supercut-james-comey-doesnt-recall-anything-about-anything/


302 posted on 03/08/2021 12:46:53 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: PUGACHEV

not very big at all, because you need a rectifier.


303 posted on 03/08/2021 12:48:24 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator
Note how existing gas stations are upgrading.

No; just adding more stuff. the old fuel is still there.

304 posted on 03/08/2021 12:50:02 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator

That dude will wish he had an ICE when the rain is falling!

That shelter taint very wide.


305 posted on 03/08/2021 12:50:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator

well just saying “wrong” about something and thats it, doesn’t support the position, like you did

i’m just being honest, i saw it and don’t know where it is

i’m not google, i found it out there, its not hidden, probably more than one out there


306 posted on 03/08/2021 12:51:14 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“at present all the pieces i’ve seen discussing it have generally said its too cost prohibitive, currently.”

Then you can easily provide links.


American Battery Technology: As part of this company’s focus on mining, extracting, and recycling lithium and other battery materials, it plans to open a battery-metals recycling plant in Incline Village, Nev., with an eventual capacity of 20,000 metric tons of scrap materials and end-of-life batteries per year.

Battery Resourcers: This Worcester, Mass., startup, a spin-off of Worcester Polytechnic Institute, is focused on making new cathode powders for lithium-ion batteries from postindustrial scrap.

Brunp Recycling Technology Co.: A subsidiary of the leading Li-ion battery maker CATL, Brunp is the largest recycler of those batteries in Asia (and therefore the world). Its new plant in China’s Hunan province reportedly can recycle 100,000 metric tons of lithium-ion battery scrap per year.

Ganfeng Lithium: The Chinese Li-ion battery maker plans to build a battery-recycling plant in Mexico, to sell minerals to electric-vehicle makers and suppliers, including Tesla and South Korea’s LG Chem.

Green Li-ion: The Singapore startup will open its second recycling plant in early 2021, which focuses on recycling Li-ion battery cathodes that are “99.9 percent pure.”

Li-Cycle: Later this year, the Canadian firm will begin constructing a US $175 million recycling plant in Rochester, N.Y. When finished it will be North America’s largest Li-ion–battery resource-recovery facility.

Northvolt: This Swedish battery startup, founded by former Tesla executives in 2016, already has an experimental recycling plant up and running and, with aluminum company Hydro, plans to open an 8,000-metric-ton-per-year recycling plant in Norway this year.

Primobius: This joint venture of Australia’s Neometals and Germany’s SMS Group will demonstrate Neometal’s proprietary recycling method with plans to scale up commercially in Europe.

ReCell Center: Funded through a 3-year, $15 million grant from the U.S. Department of Energy’s Vehicle Technologies Office, this research center is focused on longer-term methods such as direct cathode recycling.

Redwood Materials: Cofounded in 2017 by former Tesla CTO J.B. Straubel, the Carson, Nev., startup has positioned itself as a raw-materials supplier and will recycle electronic waste generally. It’s among five initial recipients from Amazon’s $2 billion Climate Pledge Fund.

ReLIB: Comparable to the U.S. ReCell Center, this R&D collaboration based at the Faraday Institution in Birmingham, England, is focused on improving the efficiency of EV battery recycling in the United Kingdom.

SMCC Recycling: A joint venture of South Korea’s SungEel HiTech Co., a battery recycler, and Metallica Commodities Corp., the company plans to open an “environmentally friendly” 5,000-metric-ton Li-ion recycling plant in Endicott, N.Y.

Tesla: For the past couple of years, Elon Musk has hinted that the EV maker will recycle its own batteries. Now it has reportedly begun doing so in China, where phase 2 of its Shanghai Gigafactory is wrapping up.

Umicore: A leading materials recycler with 11,000 employees worldwide, Umicore has since 2017 focused on “clean mobility,” including the recycling of all components of electric vehicles. Its Hoboken, Belgium, plant can handle 7,000 metric tons of Li-ion batteries a year.


307 posted on 03/08/2021 12:51:48 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

And windy; but the HVAC is green.


308 posted on 03/08/2021 12:51:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator

Side impact?

OOps


309 posted on 03/08/2021 12:52:15 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

I have a fully enclosed charging station. Millions also have this.


310 posted on 03/08/2021 12:53:42 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
You need help with your social skills.

I already have friends, I don't need you.

311 posted on 03/08/2021 12:54:47 PM PST by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
.. I think the use case for EVs is as a second or third car...

Agreed.

And it needs to park like a Roomba

312 posted on 03/08/2021 12:54:59 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“No; just adding more stuff. the old fuel is still there.”

Yes. EV charging stations.


313 posted on 03/08/2021 12:55:02 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
H2 has a distribution problem.
314 posted on 03/08/2021 12:55:53 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“If there is; I want to see the math and science, not just some website ‘saying so’.”

Details are available on the web on tHe EPA caclculation methods.


315 posted on 03/08/2021 12:56:32 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“well just saying “wrong” about something and thats it, doesn’t support the position, like you did”

Well, saying something without recalling when or where doesn’t support your position.


316 posted on 03/08/2021 1:00:30 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator

Li doesn’t outgas?


317 posted on 03/08/2021 1:00:38 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: TexasGator

Where?


318 posted on 03/08/2021 1:01:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: pluvmantelo

Thanks, I didn’t know they passed that. Off hand that’s about half what an ICE pays- which, I’ll admit, is more than I thought they’d do!

“The state currently offers a rebate of $2,000 for a pure electric vehicle and $1,000 for a plug-in hybrid.

An EV worth $5,000 will pay a $25 fee. The amount climbs up to $175 per year for a plug-in electric vehicle worth $60,000 and higher. “
https://electrek.co/2020/07/10/california-starts-charging-ev-registration-fees-up-to-175-in-july/


319 posted on 03/08/2021 1:02:35 PM PST by mrsmith (US MEDIA: " Every 'White' cop is a criminal! And all the 'non-white' criminals saints!")
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To: Elsie
Better than a Roomba:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kRArbNfOGA

320 posted on 03/08/2021 1:03:28 PM PST by TexasGator (Z1z)
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