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Pence: Constitution ‘Constrains Me’ From Rejecting Electoral Votes
The Epoch Times ^ | January 6, 2021 | Zachary Stieber

Posted on 01/06/2021 1:37:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday said that he doesn’t believe he has the “unilateral authority” to decide between competing slates of electors.

“It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not,” Pence said in a statement released just before a joint session of Congress began.

As president of the Senate, Pence is presiding over the session. The purpose of the session is to count electoral votes.

Under the Electoral College system, voters choose electors. Those electors then vote, almost always for the candidate that received the most ballots in their state. Congress meets in the January after an election to tally the votes.

Typically a rote affair, this session has taken on heightened significance after seven states sent two certificates to Washington, one for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and one for President Donald Trump. Biden won the states but Trump has said he was cheated.

Trump and some Republicans argue that Pence has the “exclusive authority” to reject electoral votes for Biden and choose the ones for Trump. A lawsuit asking a court to support that view was rejected by a district judge. An appeal was dismissed, though the plaintiffs earlier Wednesday asked the Supreme Court to intervene.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; amendmentxii; articleii; certificate; congress; constitution; countingthevotes; duelingelectors; dumpster; election2020; electionfraud; electoralcollege; noshitsherlock; pence; rubberstamp; states; trump; washingtondc
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To: dragnet2

The cowardly traitor! Actions like his start wars.


81 posted on 01/06/2021 2:04:13 PM PST by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: rxsid

Agreed.


82 posted on 01/06/2021 2:04:29 PM PST by madison10 (Maranatha!)
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To: rxsid
You're absolutely right. What kind of idiot thinks the VP can unilaterally discard the electoral votes of a state?

This place has turned into a special education classroom.

83 posted on 01/06/2021 2:04:48 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("There's somebody new and he sure ain't no rodeo man.")
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To: rxsid
Just as it constrained biden from rejecting Trump votes in 2016 and installing hillary.

And just as it constrained Al Gore from rejecting Bush slates in 2001 and installing himself. We all agree that this election was stolen from Trump, but Pence as vice-president never had the authority to choose slates of electors on his own discretion. This thing was stolen at the state level, and that's where the remedies have to be.
84 posted on 01/06/2021 2:04:49 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Well Thomas Jefferson didn’t let it constrain him-he took his authority when given the opportunity.

This is not a surprise-didn’t really expect Pence to do anything particularly helpful.


85 posted on 01/06/2021 2:05:02 PM PST by greeneyes ( Moderation In Pursuit of Justice is NO Virtue--LET FREEDOM RING)
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To: Alberta's Child
What kind of idiot thinks the VP can unilaterally discard the electoral votes of a state?

What? Of course he can!!!!

In bizarro world....

86 posted on 01/06/2021 2:05:40 PM PST by Fury (.)
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To: no-to-illegals
Dear VP Pence please consult Thomas Jefferson .....

No, that is not applicable. That was before the 12th Amendment was ratified. An Amendment that was specifically offered due to the Election of 1800 and that turd Aaron Burr.

87 posted on 01/06/2021 2:07:13 PM PST by Fury (.)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

Election reform MUST be the big issue for state elections two years from now. If we are to get people to run for state office, this is the issue they need to run on.


88 posted on 01/06/2021 2:07:17 PM PST by Windcatcher (Time to fly the other black flag -- one of no quarter for Marxists.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Get a rope.


89 posted on 01/06/2021 2:07:20 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (WHEN TYRANNY BECOMES LAW, REBELLION BECOMES DUTY)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Traitorous POS!


90 posted on 01/06/2021 2:07:27 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is Sam Adams now that we desperately need him)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

voters choose electors.

Technically untrue: States choose electors...in the manner of their choosing.

A small but important nit. If the process for choosing them is flawed or fraudulent, the electors can indeed be rejected.


91 posted on 01/06/2021 2:08:06 PM PST by Adder ("Can you be more stupid?" is a question, not a challenge.)
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To: Amendment10

Some talking head on Newsmax backs you up, too. GMTA, I guess.

I would have been fine with that, since he could have feasibly done that with Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Georgia (all GOP leges). Maybe Arizona, too. Nevada is Dem, so he would have been SOL there.


92 posted on 01/06/2021 2:08:25 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hope is not a plan. -- Matthew Bracken)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Constitution constrained him?

Whatever. Now that our government has been overthrown, that pesky Constitution will not bother him anymore.

Pence is a guilty actor in this coup d’état succeeding.


93 posted on 01/06/2021 2:08:25 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve. DJT 11-07-20)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Come on Mickey, run with the big dogs...


94 posted on 01/06/2021 2:08:34 PM PST by Mashood
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To: deadrock

He’s had 2 months to say it but waits until today.


95 posted on 01/06/2021 2:08:48 PM PST by 100%FEDUP (I'm seeing RED!)
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To: Swirl
where in the constitution does it say one has to engage/support fraud?

What fraud? Which court has ruled and shown proof of fraud?

The states have had 2 months to investigate and decertify in a timely manner, they did nothing because they found no fraud.

The DOJ has indicated that there is no fraud.

You and I both know that it is horseshit and there is fraud, but that is irrelevant.

96 posted on 01/06/2021 2:08:59 PM PST by deadrock (<img src="WIDTH420WIDTH420.jpeg" width="420">)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BS and he KNOWS better!

was he bought off? must be, because he is NOT that stupid! and he has plenty of advisors too


97 posted on 01/06/2021 2:09:03 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Nothing in the law requires accepting fraud.


98 posted on 01/06/2021 2:09:29 PM PST by Widget Jr
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To: AnotherUnixGeek

And that is where the remedy would have taken place, at the state level, had pence returned them to the states.


99 posted on 01/06/2021 2:09:50 PM PST by Constitution1st (Never, never, never quit - Winston Churchill)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Mikey can just show up and ‘confess’ that he betrayed a nation... seems to be a trend among the many holding office these days. He is certifying FRAUD, quite a faux Christian in wolf clothing. Course as it is Written one cannot serve ‘two’ masters ... Rome was NEVER on the road to ‘salvation’ .... cough, cough, cough...
100 posted on 01/06/2021 2:10:09 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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