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Pence: Constitution ‘Constrains Me’ From Rejecting Electoral Votes
The Epoch Times ^ | January 6, 2021 | Zachary Stieber

Posted on 01/06/2021 1:37:52 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday said that he doesn’t believe he has the “unilateral authority” to decide between competing slates of electors.

“It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not,” Pence said in a statement released just before a joint session of Congress began.

As president of the Senate, Pence is presiding over the session. The purpose of the session is to count electoral votes.

Under the Electoral College system, voters choose electors. Those electors then vote, almost always for the candidate that received the most ballots in their state. Congress meets in the January after an election to tally the votes.

Typically a rote affair, this session has taken on heightened significance after seven states sent two certificates to Washington, one for Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and one for President Donald Trump. Biden won the states but Trump has said he was cheated.

Trump and some Republicans argue that Pence has the “exclusive authority” to reject electoral votes for Biden and choose the ones for Trump. A lawsuit asking a court to support that view was rejected by a district judge. An appeal was dismissed, though the plaintiffs earlier Wednesday asked the Supreme Court to intervene.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; amendmentxii; articleii; certificate; congress; constitution; countingthevotes; duelingelectors; dumpster; election2020; electionfraud; electoralcollege; noshitsherlock; pence; rubberstamp; states; trump; washingtondc
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Pence just lost me. He might be technically right, but he misunderstands the room. The Constitution is lost. There is no Constitution and there hasn’t been one for many many years. He could have, should have... then let the courts decide.


101 posted on 01/06/2021 2:10:12 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: McGruff

One thing we have on our side, unlike Venezuela and so on, is that our states determine a great deal about our federal elections. Fix the states, and most of the fraud will melt away from our federal elections.

DeSantis cleaned up Flori-Duh, for example.


102 posted on 01/06/2021 2:10:13 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hope is not a plan. -- Matthew Bracken)
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To: Windcatcher

Election reform MUST be the big issue for state elections two years from now. If we are to get people to run for state office, this is the issue they need to run on.
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Seriously? If this stands, why is any future election of any consequence? Didn’t you see Georgia yesterday...project that 2 yrs into the future...President Uniparty; Senate Uniparty; House Uniparty...kinda see how that works now? This means our side never wins again.


103 posted on 01/06/2021 2:10:40 PM PST by CincyRichieRich (WHEN TYRANNY BECOMES LAW, REBELLION BECOMES DUTY)
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To: inchworm

Exactly.


104 posted on 01/06/2021 2:10:40 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: Fury

Everyone has an opinion .... Do you not support the right of the People to request a grievance be adjudicated ?


105 posted on 01/06/2021 2:10:41 PM PST by no-to-illegals ( Liberals, leftists, Rinos, moslems, illegals, lamestream media. All want America to fail and die)
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To: greeneyes

What was Jefferson’s circumstance for rejecting electors? Were there competing slates or evidence of election fraud?


106 posted on 01/06/2021 2:11:09 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hope is not a plan. -- Matthew Bracken)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

mike pence has the courage to call the national guard on TRUMP SUPPORTERS, though. Is the coup under way?


107 posted on 01/06/2021 2:12:27 PM PST by Captainpaintball (I love you, Rush Limbaugh! )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BS and he KNOWS better!

was he bought off? must be, because he is NOT that stupid! and he has plenty of advisors too

A presidential cabinet led by Hitler would develop into a party dictatorship, with all its consequences for an extreme aggravation of the conflicts within the German people.”
Weimar Republic President Paul von Hindenburg, November 1932


108 posted on 01/06/2021 2:12:37 PM PST by faithhopecharity (Politicians are not born, they are excreted. Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Phuck you Pence!


109 posted on 01/06/2021 2:12:43 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (COVID lockdowns is are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic)
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To: 100%FEDUP
2 months, 2 weeks, 2 days, 2 hours, 2 minutes, 2 seconds, do not change the constitution.

You need an amendment for that.

110 posted on 01/06/2021 2:12:47 PM PST by deadrock (<img src="WIDTH420WIDTH420.jpeg" width="420">)
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To: deadrock
"He is right, of course."

Deadrock, you sir, are a quisling idiot.

111 posted on 01/06/2021 2:13:54 PM PST by wildcard_redneck (COVID lockdowns is are the Establishment's attack on the middle class and our Republic)
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To: deadrock

It doesn’t matter if be is right. When you are fighting corruption that ignores the law you are back in the Wild West. Outlaws could be shot on sight because they were “outside the law.” The law only protects you when you submit to it. The Dems are OUTSIDE OF THE LAW. They do not deserve Constitutional service or lawful proceedings.


112 posted on 01/06/2021 2:14:12 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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To: All

one wonder’s what pence’s son thinks of him now


113 posted on 01/06/2021 2:14:24 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

And folks on here didn’t believe me when I said Pence would not overturn the election for Trump. Pence is just another politician with his finger in the wind and afraid to anger the establishment GOP.


114 posted on 01/06/2021 2:14:49 PM PST by FormerFRLurker (Keep calm and vote your conscience.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Find other work, Mike. Your political career is over.


115 posted on 01/06/2021 2:14:49 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Alberta's Child
You're absolutely right. What kind of idiot thinks the VP can unilaterally discard the electoral votes of a state?

Maybe the same kind of idiot that thinks electoral votes that are in violation of that state's laws should not be allowed. Maybe the same kind of idiot that thinks it's not OK to accept fraudulent EC votes in violation of State and Federal laws. Maybe the same kind of idiot who thinks a coup d'état is - well - a bad thing.

I hope you like your new form of government. Me? I kinda liked what we had. But that's over with.

116 posted on 01/06/2021 2:15:21 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (I will not rest until the American People have the honest vote count they deserve. DJT 11-07-20)
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To: deadrock
"Pence...said...he doesn’t believe he has the “unilateral authority” to decide between competing slates of electors."

He is right, of course.

Agreed. But "unilateral authority to decide" is not the issue.

As presiding officer he has the right, if not the duty in the face of compelling evidence of wide spread fraud and illegalities to manage the JS in a way that affords the various states an opportunity to reconsider and recertify their certificates. There can be no doubt the abundance of evidence would produce a different outcome.

America is being railroaded by both weak actors and dedicated evil actors.

117 posted on 01/06/2021 2:16:04 PM PST by frog in a pot (One of the problems...Americans face today is the immensity of what’s happening. --Andrea Widburg )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Hot damn coward!!


118 posted on 01/06/2021 2:16:24 PM PST by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If the man had a proper moral compass he would have waited until the end of the hearing before he lay down on his back and Lee into the air like a submissive puppy


119 posted on 01/06/2021 2:16:44 PM PST by McGavin999 (Justice delayed is justice denied.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

My Conscience and the US Constitution “Constrain” me from counting and certifying the Electoral Votes with so much Credible Evidence of Election Fraud brought Forth in multiple States. I therefore refer the matter to the House to Vote for President.


120 posted on 01/06/2021 2:16:53 PM PST by eyeamok
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