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Joe Biden’s Non-Mandate: He may win the White House, but his party and progressive ideas lost.
Wall Street Journal ^ | November 5, 2020 | WSJ Editorial Board

Posted on 11/06/2020 4:55:13 AM PST by karpov

As the votes continue to be counted in swing states, Joe Biden has the best chance to become the next President. But the closer we inspect the nationwide election returns, the more the result looks like a defeat for the rest of his Democratic Party and especially for the progressive agenda. Mr. Biden would take office without a mandate beyond addressing Covid-19 and not being Donald J. Trump.

Mr. Biden will win the popular vote, and he may eke out a narrow win in the Electoral College. In essence he’ll have reversed Mr. Trump’s victory in 2016 with hair’s-breath advantages in Wisconsin and Michigan, and perhaps Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona. None of them will be by large margins. He will have vanquished an incumbent President, which is no easy task.

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But look down the ballot, or across the country, and Mr. Biden’s potential victory looks remarkably limited and personal. Most new Presidents enter office having swept allies into Congress and statehouses as the public embraces his agenda and vision for America. Certainly this was true of Barack Obama in 2008 and to a lesser extent Mr. Trump in 2016. Mr. Biden had no such coattails.

Democrats lost seats in the House, giving up some of the suburban gains they made in 2018 while continuing to struggle in rural areas. The full results won’t be in for weeks, but Speaker Nancy Pelosi may find her majority cut in half or more to the smallest in 20 years.

Senate control may be determined by a Jan. 5 runoff for two seats in Georgia. But the GOP already looks to have won 50 seats to 48 for Democrats, who had expected to ride public dislike for Mr. Trump into the majority.

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To: lepton

Baris says MI is 46,000.

He has evidence of 100,000 votes or more in ONE COUNTY, (Wayne).

So, there is one response only that should be expected: NO state legislature will validate any fraudulent count.


61 posted on 11/06/2020 5:46:44 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: MinorityRepublican

We have handed total control over to a Hoax News media that convinced the American people and THEIR LEGISLATORS to allow them to be prisoners in their own homes, to change the way they dress overnight, and to close churches.

Now, wanna ask that question again?


62 posted on 11/06/2020 5:47:39 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: NFHale

Exactly. These news conferences should have been called Wed. morning.


63 posted on 11/06/2020 5:48:08 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: Williams

WSJ totally in the ChiComs’ pocket, as is FAUX.

Funny, on Hollywood Reporter today (note the name) every story is about Trump, anti-Trump statements/parties, etc.


64 posted on 11/06/2020 5:49:17 AM PST by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I agree with that.

We’ve watched the Left stage a coup for 4 years. We are in a new age, and it seems acceptable these days for people to try and take power in non-standard ways.

We won the election.
We control most of the state legislatures.
We should force the matter.
We should (at least temporarily) nationalize major media and ensure that the truth be broadcast.
We should follow the law and the law is that state legislatures choose electors and electors choose the president.
Vote counting should stop.
AX, PA, NC, VA, MI, WI, and GA should convene their legislature and make it clear that they want Trump as president.

Being polite and genteel and diplomatic is a waste of time.
Some party is going to seize power. It should be ours and not theirs. We won. They cheated.


65 posted on 11/06/2020 5:50:03 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: karpov
Ignore the elephant in the room, WSJ Editorial Board (which I used to respect.)

Fraud. Post democracy America.

Joe Biden didn't 'win' anything.

Start with that, and figure out the implications.

66 posted on 11/06/2020 5:55:07 AM PST by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: karpov

“Joe Biden’s Non-Mandate: He may win the White House, but his party and progressive ideas lost.”

A mandate is irrelevant. If JoeMentia and the Kommie are allowed to take the Presidency they will rule as they please whether their subjects approve or not. The fix is in.


67 posted on 11/06/2020 5:59:55 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (A vote for Biden is a vote to destroy America.)
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To: karpov

Stop the girly groper!


68 posted on 11/06/2020 6:00:32 AM PST by Leep (Just hang'n out waiting for Trump to win reelection.)
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To: Brooklyn Attitude
A mandate is irrelevant. If JoeMentia and the Kommie are allowed to take the Presidency they will rule as they please whether their subjects approve or not. The fix is in.

Only if we sit back and let them do it.

69 posted on 11/06/2020 6:00:58 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: karpov

If he wins every speech he makes should be interrupted by protest.


70 posted on 11/06/2020 6:01:48 AM PST by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: karpov

If you let them steal the Presidential election, what makes you think they’ll stop there and start respecting the wishes of the electorate again?


71 posted on 11/06/2020 6:03:28 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: LS

Indeed. I recall PA legislature, knuckling-under, looming large right now.. I’m also still wondering why the hell goddamn Mueller crap was ever allowed to happen. I would have told my justice department no you’re not appointing shit to investigate me, you’re going to investigate every Democrat instead.


72 posted on 11/06/2020 6:04:23 AM PST by Impy (Thug Lives Splatter - China delenda est)
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To: LS

——you’d win in any court.——

Last evening, in his declaration of war during the primenews hour, President Trump told the world that there were lots of lawyers with lots of lawsuits. Presumably, these lawsuits will be litigated in many different courts.

The President, to my understanding, indicated that only one court, not any court, mattered. That is, the result depends on the ruling of the US Supreme Court. The various rulings on different points in different courts in different locations will be incorporated into the final SCOTUS ruling.

In my view, at issue is the permissibility of mail in votes as opposed to absentee votes, in federal elections for President, Vice President, the Senate and House of Representatives.

My favored outcome would be that elections for state offices can be by Mail but not federal offices. To be a valid vote, the voter must be identified and registered beyond any identity doubt.


73 posted on 11/06/2020 6:06:09 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) t Zip-a-dee-doo-dah, zip-a-dee-ay My, o. h, my, what a wonderful day)
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To: LS

Sadly Larry, you are correct. The GOP wants Trump gone just as badly as the Democrats. My friend is a huge 10th Amendment guy and I told him that Trump laying COVID decisions at the state level screwed him. These governors used tha to ram this charade through.


74 posted on 11/06/2020 6:06:23 AM PST by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America!)
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To: lodi90

“President” Biden, or rather his handlers, will rule by EO at a rate so massive it will make B.O. look like a piker.

He will use the Virus, and “race relations” (this includes flooding our country with illegals from every turd world country around the globe) as an excuse for practically his whole existence...
Or, his handlers will have him assassinated.


75 posted on 11/06/2020 6:11:56 AM PST by Leep (Just hang'n out waiting for Trump to win reelection.)
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To: karpov

There is no such thing as a mandate there is only power. It looks like they have it. Best case we avoid complete disaster by the grace of Collins and murkowski.


76 posted on 11/06/2020 6:12:14 AM PST by Impy (Thug Lives Splatter - China delenda est)
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To: LS

Larry, the whole tone of your post both here and on Twitter is defeatist as hell. Go for a walk and think about this.

We all knew this would happen and nothing is different today from yesterday. THESE are the times that try men’s souls. This isn’t the time to give in to defeatism. This is the time to be steadfast and determined to win.


77 posted on 11/06/2020 6:17:54 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: LS

And another thing...those legislatures are about to be shown the massive fraud we ALL KNOW is there.

Why should they be commenting before there’s actual evidence? So the media can eviscerate them? Dismiss them the same way they are dismissing Trump?

They’re our ticket to win.


78 posted on 11/06/2020 6:19:36 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: LS

Would be interesting to compare votes in the various precincts in Georgia 2016 vs 2020.

Secondly, sounds like you’ve given up? It’s very apparent that they are leading due to cheating. They cheated. You know it, everyone knows it, and it looks like it was wide spread organized contrary to what Chris Wray has to say.

I can GUARANTEE YOU, GUARANTEE YOU THAT CHINA WILL MOVE INTO TAIWAN, NORTH KOREA INTO THE SOUTH...

IT’S A MATTER OF NOT IF, BUT WHEN.


79 posted on 11/06/2020 6:20:39 AM PST by nikos1121
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To: Impy

Good lord, pathetic defeatism.

This fight isn’t just for this election. This fight is for our ability to ever have our votes count again.

If you don’t think that fight is worth having, at least step aside and keep quiet while the rest of us do what we have to.


80 posted on 11/06/2020 6:23:56 AM PST by perfect_rovian_storm
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