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What Might Civil War Be Like? (From 2017 but more relevant than ever)
American Thinker ^ | E.M. Cadwaladr

Posted on 09/23/2020 3:30:47 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

The thought of Civil War has been in the minds of many people lately, on both sides of the political and cultural divide. This is not a thing to be wished for, though no one should kid themselves into believing it’s impossible either. Let us take a sober look at what such a conflict might entail.

To begin with, it would not look like the first American Civil War, which was essentially a war between two regions of the country with different economic interests. The divide created two separate countries, both initially contiguous, intact, and relatively homogeneous. The lines of demarcation now are only somewhat regional, and tend to correspond to differences between urban and rural populations, as well as differences of race and class. A second American Civil War would be much more similar to the Spanish Civil War, with the leftists dominating the cities and conservatives controlling the countryside. Conflicts of this nature, with enemies mixed geographically, are a formula for spontaneous mass bloodletting. India-Pakistan during the 1947 partition comes to mind as another modern example. Given an absence of legitimate government and the friction of proximity, ordinary people can be moved to settle grievances by killing one another without the need for governments to egg them on.

Some dimensions of a future civil war would be, I think, largely unprecedented. When lesser countries have imploded in violence in recent times, they have done so with most of the world around them still intact. There were other nations to offer aid, assistance and intervention, welcome or unwelcome. There were places for refugees to go. The collapse of the world’s remaining superpower would take much of the world down with it. A global economic crisis would be inevitable.

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To: RoosterRedux

42 million dead Americans.

Like watching a remake of the Titanic, you’ve seen this movie before in Yugoslavia, Zimbabwe, Somalia, and other countries. The boat sinks.

Other nations will sit this one out. “Mom” and “Dad” are fighting and the “kids” are hiding under their beds in their rooms waiting to see which side might win.

Divisions along racial, tribal, and family lines. The settling of old scores leaves grievous wounds that won’t heal for generations. Most of the destruction in urban areas with cities becoming significantly depopulated. Those individuals who are notable will find that their prominence and fame ensures their and their families continuous targeting and certain death.

The upside is that the Left becomes extinct


81 posted on 09/23/2020 6:30:00 AM PDT by Natty Bumppo@frontier.net (We are the dangerous ones, who stand between all we love and a more dangerous world.)
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To: metmom

IMO, roving gangs will attempt to break out from the cities and go foraging for food in the suburbs. The food supply is key in any upcoming conflict. As is water. Southern California can be brought to its knees by cutting off access to Colorado River waters.


82 posted on 09/23/2020 6:30:58 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: RoosterRedux

“One word...Chy-nah.”

Everyone seems to forget that the narrative during the Clinton years was that 50 ChiComm divisions were hiding in the Arizona desert. That was in 1994. These ChiComm divisions are now old enough to apply for social security.

So, expect to see thousands of Chinese drawing SS moving into your neighborhood and voting democrat.

We’re doooooomed!


83 posted on 09/23/2020 6:36:23 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Covenantor
"Check out just one state for yourself. Look up the number of deer permits and the numbers of votes cast. Be prepared for a surprise."

I was born and raised rural, and keep in touch with my home country and the folks I grew up with. All mostly conservative. You are making the claim....prove it with data.

There is simply no way to make an accurate connection between hunting permits and voting habits...it "is" a secret ballot, after all. If even one statistically reliable survey on that has been done, I WILL be greatly surprised.

84 posted on 09/23/2020 6:37:49 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (No Longer Tolerating Trolls!)
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To: metmom
"Reminds me of *One Second After*"

Every Freeper needs to read this book. Twice.

And thanks for the heads-up on the canning lids.

85 posted on 09/23/2020 6:39:32 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area")
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To: dirtboy
"...roving gangs will attempt to break out from the cities and go foraging for food in the suburbs."

Need to know who your neighbors are, who owns guns, and who you can rely on to help secure the neighborhood.

A house in the suburbs with only two adults cannot withstand a horde. Eight houses with 20 adults has a chance.

86 posted on 09/23/2020 6:45:26 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area")
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To: central_va
ope, you are acting stupid. If NY,VT, CA and WA want to secede it would be a blessing

Upstate NY would never go along NYC and neither would "Jefferson" California so you would have war anyhow

87 posted on 09/23/2020 6:48:50 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: JesusIsLord
"...it would boil down to who controls the federal military."

All the comments here are interesting as a thought experiment, but all seem to assume that our side will fight effectively, and that it will be over rather quickly. It might be interesting to continue with the Spanish Civil War analogy.

88 posted on 09/23/2020 6:51:02 AM PDT by BDParrish (God called, He said He'd take you back!)
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To: RoosterRedux

The issue as it stands

Liberals have the will to wipe out Conservatives but they lack the means

Conservatives have the means to wipe Liberals off the face of the earth, but they lack and (unfortunately will continue to lack) the will.

It comes down to what happens when the power goes off,

1) Do Liberals riot and burn their own cities down and then turn on each other

2) When the violence pours into the burbs & rural areas Do Conservative finally get off their @$$es and do something

#1 and #2 need to happen or Liberals will win


89 posted on 09/23/2020 6:57:33 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: RoosterRedux
One word...Chy-nah.

That would not be civil war but invasion.

90 posted on 09/23/2020 7:08:52 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: RoosterRedux

We are already in civil war and it’s going to get worse after the election.


91 posted on 09/23/2020 7:12:47 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Marxist rebels may have foreign assistance” I believe that you can remove the word “may” from your sentence. The ChiCom’s are already financing the Marxist BLM movement.


92 posted on 09/23/2020 7:16:30 AM PDT by Shane (When Injustice Becomes Law, RESISTANCE Becomes DUTY.----T.Jefferson)
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To: freedumb2003

Snipers everywhere will be a problem for the leftists if this happens. By the way, you can still get ammo in traditional hunting calibers, it hasn’t all disapppeared from the shelves yet. In the lefts own words, “nobody REALLY needs an AR15”.


93 posted on 09/23/2020 7:37:52 AM PDT by Clarancebeaks
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To: dirtboy

The suburbs are not going to be much better off for food supply.

They need to go into the country for it and they will not get far that way.

Most people have no idea how to survive in the wilderness, nothing about water purification and exposure. They don’t know how to find food and live off the land and without food they will weaken and die in fairly short order. Many will die that way. Others will be dealt with by people defending themselves.


94 posted on 09/23/2020 7:41:23 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: RoosterRedux
The right would probably win a real war, for all the reasons I have sketched above.

Yeah, and not to mention the right has 300,000,000 guns and trillions of rounds of ammunition while the left can't tell the difference between a boy and a girl.

95 posted on 09/23/2020 7:42:24 AM PDT by libertylover (Election 2020: Make America Great Again or Burn it to the Ground. Choose one.)
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To: qam1

I have no doubt 1 will happen and when the rubber meets the road, I think it’s likely two will happen.

Conservatives are not mentally deranged liberals who burn, loot, and murder for the heck of it.

We are not going off on them yet because the situation isn’t dire enough.

When it’s literally a matter of survival, many will do what they need to.


96 posted on 09/23/2020 7:44:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: dirtboy

The other thing in our favor at the moment, is that winter is coming. Here in the north, that will contain things as anyone who tries to invade the suburbs or rural areas will have the added hindrance of fighting the elements.

People have no clue how to dress for the weather and hypothermia and frostbite will hit quickly for many.

The nicer weather is far more conducive to chaos and anarchy.


97 posted on 09/23/2020 7:48:01 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: cuban leaf

I’ve said for almost 2 years that 2020 may be the last “normal election the US as we know it” the nation ever has. It is looking like it may have been 2016.

Or it may be the “best election evah” normal or not.


98 posted on 09/23/2020 8:03:00 AM PDT by Spayed Kooley
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To: Wonder Warthog

As I said, I’m not out to sway any one. The numbers are out there, any one can access them with a tiny bit of effort and draw their own conclusions.

I don’t give out homework assignments.

Under estimating opponents numbers and skill sets...well, you know.


99 posted on 09/23/2020 8:10:14 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: All

We Don’t Know.


100 posted on 09/23/2020 8:19:13 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (TRUMP, the Other guy lives in a Basement!)
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