Sure is.
Posted on 06/02/2020 7:18:05 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano
I have my TV on, and the Best kept secret seems to be that Floyd was on Meth and Fentanyl at the time of his arrest.
Mr. Floyd was attempting to drive on Meth and Fentanyl.
The next time that I’m on fentanyl and Meth, cashing in a phony $20 bill, I won’t resist arrest.
Fentanyl's effects include:
extreme happiness
drowsiness
nausea
confusion
constipation
sedation
problems breathing
unconsciousness
Us and Them........Pink Floyd...................
Was it a bad $20 check or a counterfeit $20?
Heard on the news yesterday (Fox radio I believe) that 90% of black male deaths are caused by other black males. A very tiny percent of black dead men can be blamed on police.
Of course, the black on black rates will not be mentioned.
Everybody should look up the Tuttle murders in Houston by a black narcotics officer trying to plant drugs into these white folks home. Happened last year. No media outrage.
Fentanyl reduces your heart rate and when you od you suffocate.
You take a 270 lb man on meth and you have a real threat to people trying to subdue him. I’m sure that the defense lawyer will use this.
The REAL question is.... how many balloons will George Floyd get?
Will it be 21? Like a 21 gun salute? Will it be fifty?
Did it kill him? Or just contribute to his death, like his heart issues and the police officers kneeling on him?
“And this justifies his killing?”
There’s no justifying the guy’s killing. He was face down in the street.
“it doesn’t matter.....the cop still kneeled on his neck for 8 minutes.”
there are some real cop haters on this site. i recognize one on this thread that will always jump up against cops in every situation
Life-Threatening Respiratory Depression
I have been saying since the beginning that the toxicology results will tell the story. Most of them can’t admit that fentanyl intoxication is a bad thing.
I have received gobs of insults and Freepmails that were unreal. I’d say most of the freepers are still and will always follow the “he was murdered” line putout by the media.
Some of us uneducated deplorables will actually wait for the investigation to be completed and all the facts to be presented before convicting the cops in Freep Court.
LOL. You’ll still be defending this dirty cop after he pleads guilty. He’s not going to beat this rap and faces a max 25 year sentence on the murder charge alone. This won’t even go to trial. Guaranteed.
But I can see it’s all about race to some on “both sides”. Sad. I thought conservatives were better than that. Apparently, not.
Sure is.
Officer training from coast to coast says that you only kneel on the shoulderblade and only even do that long enough to get the cuffs on the subject. After cuffs are on, you get the subject into a neutral or standing position so they aren’t laying face-down because many people with various medical conditions (drug induced or not) will encounter severe problems (such as death) if left just laying face-down.
Think about that: police are trained not to even leave a subject laying face down without any pressure on them because it’s too dangerous and could kill somebody. This officer got cuffs on the subject and kneeled ON HIS NECK for 8 minutes. If the officer were following training and it were just bad training, I’d say fault the police training and fix that problem. But nobody trains for kneeling on a handcuffed subject’s neck. This officer chose to do so against the training he received and against the warnings he would have (or at least should have) received about the severe medical issues associated with doing that.
I’m sure George Floyd was no saint. They never are in these situations. And yet we have an officer who violated training that was specifically designed to prevent the death of suspects in custody and a suspect in his custody died as a result. Officers have a sworn duty to protect those who are in their custody since those in custody cannot protect themselves. George Floyd wasn’t a saint; he was a man in police custody who died because while in custody, an officer failed at doing his job. Policing is hard work, but when it’s done poorly, people die.
His drug use could well be very relevant to his death, but as other posters have noted, not relevant to the cop kneeling on his neck which is not what police are taught to do.
In the end, the cop may have found exactly the wrong circumstance to carry out that wrong/prohibited practice. In a healthy person, the person may not have died, but someone carrying Fentanyl and Meth on board could quite possibly be the difference between a drug abuser with a sore neck and a dead drug abuser.
In the end, if it is a dead drug abuser due to the physical actions of the police, he is still dead due to malpractice of police techniques.
I try to give cops the benefit of the doubt, but in this case, both the cop and the deceased druggie seem like pieces of crap to me, the druggie is dead, but the cop is alive to face the music, and the rest of us have to burn because of the stupidity of both of them.
Damn them both to hell.
Not true.
There are windpipe chokes and blood chokes.
If the guy being arrested is drunk or high on meth he sure is much more difficult to handle even when you have several people on him. Adjusting the use of force on someone who is out of control is difficult. The victim brings this in themselves when they choose to get drunk or high. It increases your risk of accident or misbehavior.
My experience is limited to having shore patrol at fleet landing and seeing what a drunk sailor is capable of doing when all you are trying to do is get him back to the ship in one piece. Having four on one is still not enough at times.
huh????
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