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Andrew Cuomo Explains Placing Wuhan Patients in Nursing Home Deaths by Saying ‘Old People Die, That Is Going to Happen’
RedState ^ | May 17, 2020 | streiff

Posted on 05/17/2020 6:28:31 PM PDT by sickoflibs

One of the great tragedies, among many, of New York Governor Andrew Cuomo’s attempt to use the Wuhan virus as a way of getting federal dollars to fill an $6 billion in his state budget was his decision that nursing home residents were expendable.

In March, as Cuomo and his braintrust were running about like beheaded chickens shouting about models and Italy, his administration issued an order that required nursing homes to accept hospital patients recovering from Wuhan virus even if those patients were still contagious. The ostensible reason was moving recovering patients to nursing homes freed up hospital beds to treat the Wuhan created carnage. The problem, of course, was that a) there was no great influx of patients, b) nursing homes, already struggling with problems related to infections, were monumentally unsuited to caring for possibly contagious patients, and c) nursing homes are packed with the most vulnerable of the vulnerable. When challenged, this is how Cuomo responded:

But in New York, the controversy over the mandate has escalated as the virus has battered hospitals and nursing homes alike: The state not only has more coronavirus cases than anywhere in the country, but also the highest number of known long-term care deaths — at least 3,500 — related to the virus, according to the state health department. A broad swath of nursing homes across the state have already accepted COVID-positive hospital patients in compliance with the mandate, and Gov. Andrew Cuomo has openly criticized facilities for opposing it.

“They don’t have a right to object. That is the rule and that is the regulation, and they have to comply with that,” Cuomo, a Democrat, said in a Thursday news conference. “If they can’t do it, we’ll put them in a facility that can do it.”

With one order, Cuomo turned places of refuge and healing into death camps. So, in a backhanded sort of way, Cuomo was absolutely correct when he proclaimed “God did not do that…That’s how it works. It’s math.” The slaughter in New York’s nursing homes was not an act of God, it was a cold-blooded calculation that the beds occupied by the people in nursing homes were more valuable if the current user was dead. At the same time, to tamp down the scandal, New York has been counting nursing home patients who die in hospitals, like after they were sent there when contracting Wuhan under Cuomo’s policy, as hospital deaths rather than nursing home deaths as they did in the past. This has caused a call for investigation into the policy and outcomes. See these two posts by my colleague Nick Arama for more details:

Yikes: New York Admits They Have Been Deliberately Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths

Janice Dean, Elise Stefanik Call for Investigation into New Scandal of How New York Undercounted Nursing Home Deaths

Today, in Cuomo’s press conference, he was challenged on his decision to sacrifice the elderly and the sick on the altar of a model of the progress of the virus that has been proven unreliable at every stage of the way. The video is cued to the exchange below

Q. What do you say to families inside of nursing homes and they are looking for accountability? They would like to see justice. For example, I just interviewed a family of three siblings. They’ve had two nursing home losses within a few weeks of one another on two separate floors of the same facility here in Albany. They felt so much solace when you got up and talked about Matilda’s Law. They said, “great, we’re protected,” our loved ones are going to be okay because of Matilda’s Law. And then their loved ones passed away because they couldn’t get the testing. So they are looking for accountability and they feel that they were failed. What’s the comment to that?

CUOMO: Yeah. The comment is this, and I have those conversations all day long, with people who’ve lost people, right? We lost 139 people yesterday in hospitals. Who is accountable for those 139 deaths? How do we get justice for those families who had 139 deaths? What is justice? Who can we prosecute for those deaths? Nobody. Nobody. Mother Nature? God? Where did this virus come from? People are going to die by this virus. That is the truth. Best hospital system on the globe, I believe we have. Best doctors, best nurses, who have responded like heroes. Every medication, ventilators, the health system wants for nothing. We worked it out so we always had available beds. No one was deprived of a medical bed or coverage in any way. And still people died. Still people died. Older people, vulnerable people, are going to die from this virus. That is going to happen. Despite whatever you do. Because with all of our progress as a society, we can’t keep everyone alive. Despite everything you do. And older people are more vulnerable. And that is a fact and that is not going to change…Why do people die? Who is accountablie?….

Q. [Inaudible] feel that if the mandates were currently in place right now, that we’ve all been talking about in here, were in place from the get-go, they feel that their loved ones might still be here.

CUOMO: I don’t…look people rationalize death in different ways. I don’t think there is any logical rationale to say they would be alive today….

There are several points to be made about the issue and Cuomo’s response.

First, there was never any logical reason for forcing contagious Wuhan patients into nursing homes particularly given the skill, staffing, and sanitation issues that are well documented. This was especially true when the cavernous Javits Center was not used and when it became glaringly obvious that the massive rush of Wuhan sufferers to hospitals was not going to take place. At best the policy was just stupid and ill-considered. At its worst it amounted to a premeditated decision to let the most vulnerable just die.

Second, the question is not an abstract ‘what is the meaning of life’ question that philosophers ponder. It wasn’t why do some people die despite having the best of care. It was one of holding to account the people who decided that putting the most vulnerable needlessly at risk instead of taking positive actions to protect them.

While it may be true that older and medically compromised people are more at risk of dying, what does not flow from that observation is that it was wise or moral to put them at needless risk for the sake of responding to an ephemeral threat.

I think Cuomo’s laissez-faire attitude is not just a gaffe, it is the policy of the state of New York that if you are old or sick that they will cheerfully kill you to make a political point.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: adorno
RE:”. But, he had very awful decisions even before the virus struck, so, he’s at a dead-end job as governor, and he’ll probably not run again in the state.”

Maybe you misunderstand NY State

61 posted on 05/17/2020 7:44:12 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Wear your face homemade coverings (not a N95 please) when you zoom into work to show you care.)
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To: Tawiskaro

Where is Mrs. Cuomo his mother? He put her somewhere safe I remember that but I don’t know where. I would feel awfully guilty if I were her. Maybe she can talk some sense into him. He’s a murderer


62 posted on 05/17/2020 7:45:02 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: sickoflibs

Why is this man holding ANY elected office? He’s a ghoul - but all Socialist Democrats are...at heart!


63 posted on 05/17/2020 7:45:49 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: sickoflibs

I guess this will be their rationale for murdering the people who won’t take their goddam vaccine.

Well they were gonna die anyway. So we just killed them.

The mondset these people have will start cwii, and i believe they want it to start.

we ought to consider giving them what they want while we can win it.


64 posted on 05/17/2020 7:46:43 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Sooth2222
RE:”Then what was the goal of the lockdown?”

Explained here #14

Keep you scared.

65 posted on 05/17/2020 7:47:09 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Wear your face homemade coverings (not a N95 please) when you zoom into work to show you care.)
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To: matt04

As they made Tic Tock dance videos


66 posted on 05/17/2020 7:47:57 PM PDT by Osagegirl
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Diana, glad to read that you are still alive.

The national news media playing the video of that one crowded bar scene in WI predicted that most of you would be dead by now.


67 posted on 05/17/2020 7:53:48 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Wear your face homemade coverings (not a N95 please) when you zoom into work to show you care.)
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To: sickoflibs

I sense a cynical attempt to kill off the elderly because “they’ve lived their lives” and they’re no longer productive members of society. I am sensing some of these measures have been to isolate seniors and let them die in order to preserve the rest of society and remove the cost burden of caring for them. In a bankrupt society, the elderly will always be the first to go.


68 posted on 05/17/2020 7:53:57 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Step One of the recovery is 'flatten the curve'. Step Two is to flatten the tyrants.)
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To: sickoflibs

LOL! No bar hopping for me, but there are a lot more happy and lubricated Wisconsinites out there these days, that’s for sure!

Many are looking forward to going back to work, tomorrow! :)


69 posted on 05/17/2020 7:56:16 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set.)
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To: sickoflibs

Hey Cuomo, what happened to staying home to protect grandma?


70 posted on 05/17/2020 7:59:08 PM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: sickoflibs
Maybe you misunderstand NY State

I lived in NY for 35 years, and I know the voting patterns of most New Yorkers, which is why I left the state 32 years ago.

But, getting elected again as governor might not have been the dream job for Cuomo, and I'm pretty certain that the governorship was a stepping stone towards the White House. So, I don't think he wants a dead-end job as governor.
71 posted on 05/17/2020 8:08:32 PM PDT by adorno
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To: sickoflibs

That’s the same mentality governor Nuisance expressed when the Oroville Dam almost collapsed. He said, “sh*t happens”.


72 posted on 05/17/2020 8:14:38 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: sickoflibs

One day he was doing the typical Orange Man bad crap. The next day he was praising Trump’s support. Call me cynical if you like, but once he 180’d I immediately suspected he was setting the stage for a bailout, not to mention attempting to cover his ass.


73 posted on 05/17/2020 8:41:38 PM PDT by taketheredpill
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To: sickoflibs

“...his administration issued an order that required nursing homes to accept hospital patients recovering from Wuhan virus even if those patients were still contagious. “

and

“Old People Die, That Is Going to Happen’”

Well, yeah. And when you do things like this, they will die in much greater numbers.


74 posted on 05/17/2020 8:48:00 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (If we disarmed democrats gun violence would decrease by 90%.)
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To: sickoflibs

Criminals go to jail and this is going to happen


75 posted on 05/17/2020 9:10:52 PM PDT by Hoosier-Daddy ("Washington, DC. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious")
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To: sickoflibs

Cuomo is a ghoul.


76 posted on 05/17/2020 9:22:26 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: sickoflibs

He carez so much. Wut a guy. Keep voting dem0crat.


77 posted on 05/17/2020 9:25:30 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: sickoflibs

Coumo’s 15 minutes of fame are over... His infamy will last for eternity.


78 posted on 05/17/2020 9:26:28 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: sickoflibs
People fall out of black helicopters all the time too.

Just sayin'.

79 posted on 05/17/2020 9:32:46 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: sickoflibs
Leftists never change.

`most of the people that die with heart disease and cancer are our elderly population, you know, and we all will probably die with something sooner or later'

--Jocelyn Elders

Source: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CREC-1994-08-08/html/CREC-1994-08-08-pt1-PgE19.htm

80 posted on 05/17/2020 9:35:10 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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