Posted on 04/21/2020 2:49:58 PM PDT by Magnatron
Coronavirus patients taking hydroxychloroquine, a treatment touted by President Trump, were no less likely to need mechanical ventilation and had higher deaths rates compared to those who did not take the drug, according to a study of hundreds of patients at US Veterans Health Administration medical centers.
The study, which reviewed veterans' medical charts, was posted Tuesday on medrxiv.org, a pre-print server, meaning it was not peer reviewed or published in a medical journal. The research was funded by the National Institutes of Health and the University of Virginia.
In the study of 368 patients, 97 patients who took hydroxychloroquine had a 27.8% death rate. The 158 patients who did not take the drug had an 11.4% death rate.
"An association of increased overall mortality was identified in patients treated with hydroxychloroquine alone. These findings highlight the importance of awaiting the results of ongoing prospective, randomized, controlled studies before widespread adoption of these drugs," wrote the authors, who work at the Columbia VA Health Care System in South Carolina, the University of South Carolina and the University of Virginia.
Researchers also looked at whether taking hydroxychloroquine or a combination of hydroxychloroquine and the antibiotic azithromycin, had an effect on whether a patient needed to go on a ventilator.
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
And before you say: Why post this crap?
If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
-- Sun Tzu
CNN is at Hustler magazine levels now....
Bull crap. Theyve resisted at every turn, they finally got it to where people would only take it right before they were circling the drain, and then they claim it doesnt work. Meanwhile, actual doctors treating patients so its nothing less than a miracle cure. And its $.50 a dose instead of the $200 Bill Gates solution. You know Bill Gates, hes the non-medical guy famous for not being able to stop a single virus in his computer.
If you are ever struck down by an illness and need a caregiver, dont select a woke liberal.
Here’s a Walmart calling card....so I can call BS on this.
They’ll cook the books and cherry-pick data every chance they can to put a negative spin on the truth - not that I know what the truth is, but I recognize an agenda a mile away.
Let’s face it - We’ve lost (and by extension Trump has lost) the PR battle on this.
My exhaustive study proves CNN are lying sacks of crap.
Made to order "science", compliments of the now infamous Dr. Fauci.
Here’s the big question: How bad were the ones who took the HCQ vs the ones who didn’t? I’m betting the ones who took it were in much worse condition than the ones who didn’t and it was a last ditch effort to save them.
The Truth:
ask all the people who HAVE recovered because of it.
The Dem State Rep in Michigan & Cifelli? (the CNBC guy)who both swear by this...and many others.
Fake News CNN
It is not clear the patient’s were matched well, i.e. the the ones that got HCQ were probably sicker. If I did a study of COVID19 patients for outcomes between those who were on a ventilator and those that were not, certainly those on the ventilators would have much higher death rates.
Study does not analyze
hyrdroxychloroquine with zithromax and zinc.
There is no inclusion of zinc in this study— which is the consistent recommendation and consistent with studies supporting the usage.
I did read the actual study and it does concede that HCQ + zithromax is more effective than HCQ alone.
That is deliberately left out of these media reports.
Yes, it is a hack job.
I noticed the article didn’t allow for comments.
I know that is surprising to most people :^)
Can’t have the peasants talking back.
And before you say: Why post this crap?
“...If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
Thank you for taking the time to check out the latest propaganda, so others will be spared.
A distant relative that works in a hospital tested positive and admitted, was IMEADEATLY STARTED ON THE ANTI MALARIAL DRUG.
Five days hospital, a week or so home quarantine and back to work.
This is truly a sign of extreme desperation on the part of the corrupt leftist media. It will be easy to debunk their own ludicrous debunkery, as there are many studies currently being conducted with extreme care and according to proper procedure, across the world that will make CNN wish they had just kept their electronic mouths shut.
But that would take foresight and rational thinking, neither of which take place in CNN’s editorial offices. They are sick.
Yes, it is VERY possible that HCQ was given only to the sicker patients. When a study says “retrospective” (which it does) that means the above is possible.
You can only have confidence in randomized double-blind studies, and this one doesn’t qualify.
Here is the money finding within the text of the study:
“There were 27 deaths (27.8%) in the HC group, 25 deaths (22.1%) in the HC+AZ group, and 18 deaths (11.4%) in the no HC group (Table 3). Mechanical ventilation occurred in 13.3% of the HC group, 6.9% of the HC+AZ group, and 14.1% of the no HC group (Table 4).”
Notice that ventilation was needed LEAST in the group of patients treated with HC+AZ (6.9%).
so in reality, the study finds that HC+AZ significantly reduces the need for ventilation. Oops.
If you have doubts about this, check it out:
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.16.20065920v1.full.pdf
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