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1 posted on 01/05/2020 10:30:33 AM PST by bitt
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2 posted on 01/05/2020 10:30:46 AM PST by bitt (A FRIVOLOUS impeachment vote is a SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY)
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It may mean war as far as Iran is concerned.

But of course, Iran declared war on the U.S. years ago...


3 posted on 01/05/2020 10:32:43 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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If anything, it might have delayed a war for a decade or so.


6 posted on 01/05/2020 10:36:32 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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If Japan had bombed Pearl Harbor during Trump’s term, Democrats would complain that he might start a war. Obama’s previous term would have been 8 years of appeasing and apologizing to Hitler. Maybe even a Germany deal giving them everything they wanted.


7 posted on 01/05/2020 10:36:42 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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No one is taking the long view. Whatever power that Soleimani had within Iran, he was clearly the linchpin of Iran’s external efforts — all of them. Even with Soleimani fully in charge, these efforts were imploding as the resources to fund them dried up.

So as Iran is dealing with some of the greatest internal unrest since the Shah was deposed. And the hammer being used to manage, incentivize and discipline extra-national forces is now dead at a time when Iran’s resources and influence were already waning.

If I am Hezbollah, what is my prediction vis-a-vis Iran going forward? What do the Iraqis anticipate? And so forth. It can’t be anything other than grim; and clearly even grimmer today than three days ago.

Iran can assert all they want that they will now go on the offensive against the US, but the situation unambiguously points to the need for Iran to be defending the entrenched interests it already has in place and that are exceedingly vulnerable at this pregnant moment in history.

To strike boldly at the US now would be an act of desperation rather than rational and calculating strategy. Even if the Iranians could pull this off, their best move would be to bide their time and deal with more imminent matters first.


8 posted on 01/05/2020 10:39:13 AM PST by drellberg
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I am certainly not a foreign policy expert, but I tend to agree with this article.

More of the same would not have provided any deterrent effect. It was past time to up the ante.


9 posted on 01/05/2020 10:40:02 AM PST by independentmind (Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt)
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No, killing Soleimani doesn’t mean the war is over.


10 posted on 01/05/2020 10:40:39 AM PST by null and void (The government wants to disarm us after 243 yrs 'cuz they plan to do things we would shoot them for!)
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Persia is 7000 miles away. Everyone here in armed. Go for it mullahs


11 posted on 01/05/2020 10:47:09 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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POTUS tweeted that Suleimani was responsible for hundreds of recent deaths of IRANIAN protesters (see link below).

There will be no war between the US and Iran involving Troop engagement. President Trump will not send US Troops into Iran. He doesn't need to. He has tens of millions of people on the ground already who will gladly do that for him. The Iranian People are boiling over.

From last month and still ongoing:
With Brutal Crackdown, Iran Convulsed by Worst Unrest in 40 Years
https://theunionjournal.com/with-brutal-crackdown-iran-convulsed-by-worst-unrest-in-40-years-2

We will see with near certainty that President Trump backs the Iranian PEOPLE to overthrow their maniacal REGIME. They are so fed up.

Massive numbers of Iranian protesters not seen since the 1979 Islamic Revolution are now openly demonstrating against the Regime and hundreds are giving their lives in the protest. That is significant. Iran is very unstable much like the Soviet Union in 1989. We can see the era of Islamic terror brought to an historic end just as we saw the fall of the USSR.

Note the Iranian people are NOT ARMED except for a very few that get arms through black markets smuggled into the region. It is entirely possible perhaps probable that weapons are being supplied through Northern Syria through Southern Turkey into Northern Iran. The southern part of Turkey is populated by rural farmers and Turkish soldiers there can easily be made to look the other way just as they are made now with respect to black market oil from Iran brought in by truck convoys destined for Turkish oil ports. It is very possible that the arms supply chain via black marketers will be ratcheted up into Iran to protesters there. Now is the time.

Iranians remember when they had a society that was not obsessed with Islam, they remember they had a thriving middle class, a stable and good life, an economy that provided all basics including the ability to feed themselves. None of this exists today. But it's more than just economic hardship, the Iranian people are fed up with the whole Islamic ideology that leans on them. For years they have had regime spies watching their every move, listening to their every word and taking actions against them for failing to submit to the harsh Mullah rule. Their parents and grandparents REMEMBER when it was different. They have photo albums they keep hidden showing the good life they had. Now they are willing to die to bring it back.

Iranian family before the 1979 Islamic revolution (1960s)

Days after the revolution in 1979, a compulsory Hijab ruling was introduced. The regime issued up to 70 lashes or months of imprisonment for disobeying. Women were banned from being judges.

The legal age of marriage for girls was reduced to 9 and then raised to 13.

President Trump need not send American troops into Iran. He will cripple the Regime there with missile and drone strikes and he can help enable the Iranian people to oust their regime's leaders and break the ruling network. I believe President Trump will help them.

To get a sense of how angry the Iranian people are with their 'Deep State', imagine if the Democrats through blackmail and coercion are able to impeach and remove both President Trump and Vice President Pence, then swear in Nancy Pelosi as President who moves immediately to order the US Army to put down any insurrection and to disarm and confiscate guns followed by a very harsh doctrine of political correctness that Americans must comply with or they will be marked as domestic terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

As Americans we pray the Iranian people see freedom soon and pray that President Trump helps the Iranian people to oust the awful regime that rules over them allowing them to return to the society of their fathers and mothers.

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12 posted on 01/05/2020 10:52:28 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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No, killing Soleimani doesn’t mean war

Yeah, the Iranian invasion force has been ordered to stand down.

13 posted on 01/05/2020 10:52:48 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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No, killing Soleimani doesn’t mean war

Yeah, the Iranian invasion force has been ordered to stand down.

14 posted on 01/05/2020 10:52:48 AM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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We have been at war with Iran for about 4 decades, its not over, but I think Trump deescalated it for a bit.

If anything, this proved the Iranians are not that bright in the first place, who puts their 2nd in command out on the battlefield in a foreign land like that? Its amateur hour.

2nd in command in two car loads of other high value targets, these terrorists were planning something big and we destroyed them.

Iran is embarrassed right now, they just got bested by a Real Estate developer/Reality TV host. They are full of empty threats right now, they finally realized they are truly powerless.


15 posted on 01/05/2020 10:58:16 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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The attack on Soleimani will lead to more violence and destabilize the Middle East.

I can't say that with a straight face...

18 posted on 01/05/2020 11:10:56 AM PST by fhayek
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Iran has been at war with us, as in U.S., and with the civilized world since the mullahs took power in 1979. The only difference after this week’s action is whether they stay in the shadows or come onto the field in broad daylight. They are well-advised to stay within those dark, safe shadows.

That Iran can hurt us is beyond question. Thanks to Obummer, Iran either has nukes, will soon have nukes, or at least they have enough refined nuclear material to make a stack of contaminant-scattering “dirty” bombs, not to mention uncountable sleepers. Have no doubt, they CAN hurt us.

But on the plus side, their own people can hurt them. Obummer screwed up a glorious opportunity to support Iranian rebels who wanted to dump the Islamic regime and return to civilization. Those seeds remain in place.

Could Trump reignite that Persian rebellion? Could the Donald arrange for a few hundred crates of AKs (with ammo) to mysteriously appear in Tehran, like Obummer’s pallets ofcash? Does Trump have good enough relations with the CIA to pull off such a Secret Santa gift? We CAN hurt them, too!


23 posted on 01/05/2020 11:55:37 AM PST by DNME (The only solution to a BAD guy with a gun is a GOOD guy with a gun.)
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No, killing Soleimani doesn’t mean war

It means we are FINALLY shooting back in this war that has been going on for a LONG time now.

25 posted on 01/05/2020 4:45:23 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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Iran will do one of two things, (A.) hit the targets they would have hit any way or (B.) make a lot of noise and quietly not hit the targets they had planned because the US thumps with big stick.

If they are smart they will pick option B.

I have seen few signs that they are smart.

So a couple of more thumps are probably going to be in their future.

27 posted on 01/05/2020 4:49:54 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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