Of course it’s legit. But there are freepers here who will curse at him, a special forces soldier, our finest, who is on the scene, because he thinks we should support allies. So what’s the point in asking? I support they premise of getting our troops home and not fighting other people’s wars, but do we leave our partners to be slaughtered? What’s that say about us? There was no good answer for this situation.
That “soldier” is no better than Tokyo Rose. He should shut his mouth. You got suckered into helping him demoralize people.
There was no good answer for this situation.
Absolutely right. IMO anger against Trump is misplaced, but he is there so the focus is on him. Anger would better be focused on those that lead us into these quagmires. GW Bush, Obama, Hillary, and the CIA. They lead us down the primrose path to a “no win” situation for a plethora of reasons many of which were not good. Trump is trying to focus us back and the sausage making is ugly. Unless we are willing to go total war and annex these countries there are very few good outcomes. I don’t think many of us want to own these countries.
I can only imagine what the threads would look like here on FR if the Chinese government started establishing diplomatic and military ties with La Raza or Black Lives Matter.
Alright, you have raised a legitimate concern.
I want excised from the Middle East. None of the conflicts we are involved in should still be occurring and one of them (Gulf War 2) never should have happened at all. We should have put all parties on notice that we are winding down. ISIS fighters should be sentenced and imprisoned by Iraq and Syria for invading and taking those nations’ territory. Death sentences should be handed out like candy to them. We should have warned the Kurds that we cannot help them fight to carve out territory either. We then should have given a firm date on the start of withdrawal.
I don’t feel good about “leaving people to be slaughtered” if that is indeed what is happening. We truly don’t know as of yet. If it had been me making the decisions, I would be going around to the UN and talking to the countries involved about what is going on and what their plans are. I would get a definite plan from Turkey and I would have arranged my withdrawal around that plan. I would have even helped evacuate the Kurds further from the area if needed as I started to leave.
At no point should the Kurds have been promised anything regarding their ethnic struggle or their cause. At no point should they alone have been left “guarding” the ISIS fighters.
I would have left Turkey with a FIRM warning about any atrocities they might want to inflict. Discussion about their suspension or eviction from NATO, suspension of any U.S. aid, diplomatic activity at the UN, and if needed, help the Kurds push them back across the border into Turkey if they launch a slaughter against anyone other than terrorists.
I think I am being more than fair in a situation we can do little about. What say you?
Turkey is a member of NATO
They are an ally by treaty
You want to go to war??? Have the congress declare it
Turkey is a NATO member. So we should go after another NATO member?
We've been dickering over Syria for years. Obama sent in our guys to train 50,000 rebels. They took the weapons and supplies and disappeared.
It's a Civil War...let it play out. Our 1000 or so soldiers isn't going to make a difference. It's become a Civil War...not a war against ISIS.