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Chinese ‘Scholars’: English Language Is a ‘Dialect’ of Mandarin
Breitbart ^ | 10 Sep 2019 | John Hayward

Posted on 09/11/2019 12:30:00 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

A group of Chinese scholars has suggested that many contemporary Western languages, including English, were derived from Mandarin Chinese.

According to their research, the French, German, and Russian languages were also strongly influenced by Chinese culture.

According to a report at the Inquirer on Tuesday, the claim by Chinese scholars at the World Civilization Research Association was first presented at a summit in Beijing last July, but has not been widely discussed with international media until now.

The claim came with a hearty dose of Chinese nationalism, as the group asserted everything Europeans believe about the influence of ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome on their language and culture was invented to conceal the much more important influence of China upon the inferior Western civilizations. In fact, Egypt, Greece, and Rome were supposedly modeled on ancient China as well.

“Do not let fake Western-centered history hinder the great Sino-Renaissance!” advised group founder Du Gangjian.

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KEYWORDS: agglutinative; china; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; history; kag; maga; nonsense; trump; wcra
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To: Zhang Fei

Sure!
That’s why they are so similar!
Didn’t you ever notice how you can listen to a chinese person talk and understand some english equivalent words?


61 posted on 09/11/2019 8:14:51 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: stockpirate; a fool in paradise
Thanks for the pings!

62 posted on 09/11/2019 8:18:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: familyop

You’re right


63 posted on 09/11/2019 8:19:59 AM PDT by dinodino
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To: Jewbacca
I have no doubt English has absorbed Mandarin in some way.

Perhaps, but I am to gung ho for English to kowtow to Chinese

64 posted on 09/11/2019 8:22:09 AM PDT by null and void (After those deliberate lies THEY owe it to me to be honest, I don't owe them to be less suspicious.)
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To: elcid1970

Yes, the core vocabulary of Romanian is from Latin and often similar to the word in the other Romance languages. For example, the words for the numbers one to ten are obviously from Latin. But the Romanian word for 100 seems to come from Old Slavonic and the word for “yes” is the same as in Russian and Bulgarian. It’s natural that they would absorb some loan words from nearby languages.


65 posted on 09/11/2019 8:30:59 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: mbrfl
Yes, the Indo-European language family has been intensively studied and is completely distinct from the Sino-Tibetan family which includes the Chinese language.

The Chinese word for horse (ma) seems to be of Indo-European origin and cognate with the English word "mare." The Chinese may have first acquired horses from the speakers of an Indo-European language.

66 posted on 09/11/2019 8:34:41 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: elbook

Those scholars are half right.

Mandarin is very similar to Ingrish.


67 posted on 09/11/2019 8:41:58 AM PDT by Texas resident (Democrats=Enemy of People of The United States of America)
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To: Ken H

“I thought it was the Russians who invented everything.”

Cold War joke:

One morning in Russia in 1840 a peasant went out into his fields and discovered two trees with a copper wire stretched between them. On this basis Russians claim to have invented the telegraph.

On that same morning a Chinese peasant went out into his fields and didn’t find any wires, so the Chinese now claim to have invented the wireless.

Oof....

And speaking of inventing things, I suppose you’ve heard of Alexander Graham Kowalski, the first telephone Pole?

(I’ll shut up)


68 posted on 09/11/2019 8:46:09 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: Zhang Fei

Ahnenerbe has found a new home.


69 posted on 09/11/2019 8:47:04 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Zhang Fei

Next time they should look a little further than a Chinese restaurant menu. “Number five combo, egg drop soup and pork fried rice” is not a large enough sample.

And the Westminster Kennel Club show is not a dinner buffet.

Time to start calling Beijing “Peking” again.


70 posted on 09/11/2019 8:52:30 AM PDT by ameribbean expat (Socialism is like a nude beach - - sounds great til you actually get there. -- David Burge.)
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To: Ken H

Yeah, sounds like Ensign Checkov prattling about every advance in human history deriving from Mother Russia.


71 posted on 09/11/2019 8:55:47 AM PDT by Tallguy (Facts be d@mned! The narrative must be protected at all costs!)
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To: null and void
"I have no doubt English has absorbed Mandarin in some way."

Perhaps, but I am too gung ho for English to kowtow to Chinese"

Yes, I have a yen to chow ( down on some tea/ and soy ramen with ketchup I cooked in my wok , after playing Mahjong , myself.
72 posted on 09/11/2019 9:02:15 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: rbg81

On the other hand, spoken Chinese is fairly easy for English speakers to learn. Nearly all of the sounds are used in English. The tones are not as easy to remember, but can be attached to context, just like the Chinese learn their own language. Much of the meaning of Mandarin depends on context, such as tense and gender.


73 posted on 09/11/2019 9:34:49 AM PDT by jimtorr
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To: Zhang Fei

Academic Stupidity And Brainwashing
Townhall ^ | Walter E. Williams Walter E. Williams | Posted: Sep 11, 2019 12:01 AM
Posted on 9/11/2019, 10:19:09 AM by Red Badger

Just when we thought colleges could not spout loonier ideas, we have a new one from American University. They hired a professor to teach other professors to grade students based on their “labor” rather than their writing ability. The professor that American University hired to teach that nonsense is Asao B. Inoue, who is a professor at the University of Washington in Tacoma in interdisciplinary arts and sciences. He is also the director of the university’s writing center. Inoue believes that a person’s writing ability should not be assessed, in order to promote “anti-racist” objectives. Inoue taught American University’s faculty members that their previous practices of grading writing promoted white language supremacy. Inoue thinks that students should be graded on the effort they put into a project.

The idea to bring such a professor to American University, where parents and students fork over $48,459 a year in tuition charges, could not have been something thought up by saner members of its academic community. Instead, it was probably the result of deep thinking by the university’s diversity and campus life officials. Inoue’s views are not simply extreme but possibly hostile to the academic mission of most universities. Forgiving and ignoring a students’ writing ability would mostly affect black students. White students’ speaking and writing would be judged against the King’s English, defined as standard, pure or correct English grammar. CARTOONS | Michael Ramirez View Cartoon

Professor Noam Chomsky, called the father of modern linguistics, formulated the generative theory of language. According to his theory, the most basic form of language is a set of syntactic rules that is universal for all humans and that underlies the grammar of all human languages. We analyze and interpret our environment with words and sentences in a structured language. Oral and written language provides a set of rules that enables us to organize thoughts and construct logical meaning with our thoughts.

Not holding students accountable to proper grammar does a disservice to those students who overall show poor writing abilities. When or if these students graduate from college, they are not going to be evaluated in their careers by Inoue’s tailored standards. They will be judged according to their objective abilities, and it probably follows that if they fail to meet those objective standards, the standards themselves will be labeled as racist.

There’s another very dangerous bit of academic nonsense happening, this time at the K-12 level of education. One America News Network anchor interviewed Mary Clare Amselem, education specialist at the Heritage Foundation, about the California Department of Education’s proposed ethnic studies curriculum. The proposed ethnic studies curriculum would teach children that capitalism and father figures are racist.

The Ethnic Studies Model Curriculum also includes gross anti-Israel bias and teaches about a Palestinian-led anti-Israel initiative called Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions. The curriculum also has students study issues of police brutality and asks teachers to find incidents of bias by police in their own communities. According to an article by Shelby Talcott in The Stream, California’s proposed curriculum called for students to study lawmakers such as Democratic Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar and Democratic Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, both of whom have supported the BDS movement and have been accused of anti-Semitic rhetoric. Recommended Wow: Speaker at 9/11 Ceremony in New York Calls Out Ilhan Omar Cortney O’Brien

The proposed ethnic studies proposal has been removed from the California Department of Education website. House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said, “While I am relieved that California made the obvious decision to revisit this wholly misguided proposal, we need to know why and how a blatantly anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, factually inaccurate curriculum made its way through the ranks of California’s Department of Education.” He added, “This was not simply an oversight — the California Department of Education’s attempt to institutionalize anti-Semitism is not only discriminatory and intolerant, it’s dangerous.”

Brainwashing our youngsters is a serious matter. The people responsible for the California Department of Education’s proposal ought to be summarily fired.

Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University.

Walter E. Williams’s Latest Book American Contempt for Liberty is available on Amazon


74 posted on 09/11/2019 10:48:47 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Grampa Dave

[The professor that American University hired to teach that nonsense is Asao B. Inoue, who is a professor at the University of Washington in Tacoma in interdisciplinary arts and sciences. He is also the director of the university’s writing center. Inoue believes that a person’s writing ability should not be assessed, in order to promote “anti-racist” objectives. Inoue taught American University’s faculty members that their previous practices of grading writing promoted white language supremacy. Inoue thinks that students should be graded on the effort they put into a project.]


This guy is really stretching the old adage “if you can, do; if you can’t, teach” beyond all recognition.


75 posted on 09/11/2019 5:27:24 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Given that we refer commonly to a large number of distinct and very different types of languages in China as “dialects” of something we call “Chinese” then yes, English is logically a dialect of Mandarin.


76 posted on 09/11/2019 6:23:21 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: SunkenCiv

Given that we refer commonly to a large number of distinct and very different types of languages in China as “dialects” of something we call “Chinese” then yes, English is logically a dialect of Mandarin.


77 posted on 09/11/2019 6:23:22 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: ThanhPhero
No, English is not logically a dialect of Mandarin.

78 posted on 09/11/2019 11:19:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Thanks: “This guy is really stretching the old adage “if you can, do; if you can’t, teach” beyond all recognition.”

He could be the poster boy for “Intellectuals yet Idiots”!


79 posted on 09/12/2019 6:39:46 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Ken H

Along with those brilliant Muslims.


80 posted on 09/12/2019 7:04:04 AM PDT by JerseyDvl ("If you're going through hell, keep going.")
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