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Correlation Between Unemployment and the Minimum Wage ( There is none)
Syracuse University ^ | 10/4/16 | Syracuse University

Posted on 08/16/2019 6:30:54 AM PDT by central_va

With the “Fight for $15 External link ” making headlines, opinions abound about whether raising the federal minimum wage will have a positive or negative effect on unemployment rates. Advocates of an increase cite the impossible task of making ends meet on today’s paltry sum of $7.25 an hour and say an increase would have little effect on the overall economy. Those against such a move predict that doing so would cause employers to lay off more and hire less—raising unemployment rates as a result. As is often the case with such emotionally charged issues, especially in an election year, the broader conversation about the minimum wage tends to involve more feeling than historical fact. To balance such a dynamic, we decided to turn to the data to see what it reveals.

(Excerpt) Read more at onlinebusiness.syr.edu ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 15dollarminimumwage; emplyment; inflation; minwage; noeffect
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To: Penelope Dreadful
But if you have a problem with laws and the people who work in that field, then I suggest that you move to some place more free-spirited! Where the whole “law” thingy is less stringent.

How did you deduce that I have a problem with laws out of what I posted??? I was making the point that in your profession people make a great deal of money on other peoples efforts yet you espouse that companies should pay people more for their work and take less profit. Nothing in my post indicates that I have a problem with the law. That's some really convoluted thinking.

81 posted on 08/17/2019 6:00:13 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: winner3000

So you ignore the data and the facts. Wow.


82 posted on 08/21/2019 12:59:23 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JimRed

Academics didn’t make up facts. Show data the when the minimum wage rose and it corresponding to an increase unemployment.


83 posted on 08/21/2019 1:01:11 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Mastador1
Well I can tell you, having been a manager responsible for three fast food restaurants of a major national chain from the mid seventies to 2000, that there is a definite correlation between minimum wage increases and unemployment, and it became greater as the years went by.

Except the data(facts) do not support that clam. DID YOU LOOK AT THE DATA?

84 posted on 08/21/2019 1:02:28 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Robert DeLong

That applies to every commodity needed to run the business. If electricity goes form 10cents/KW-HR to 15cents/KW-HR there is a price increase because all competitors have the same cost increase. Just like labor.


85 posted on 08/21/2019 1:05:43 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Robert DeLong

If you keep this attitude then the Republican Party will always struggle with getting the working class. The Republican Party will always be a minority party with few exceptions. This is a political and not just an economic issue.


86 posted on 08/21/2019 1:08:02 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BizBroker
If all work provided everything that we need to live, then where would the incentive be to improve oneself?

That is pretty ridiculous even for Free Republic standards.

87 posted on 08/21/2019 1:10:27 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BizBroker
I am a business owner and have been self-employed for more than 20 years.

What a hero.

88 posted on 08/21/2019 1:11:46 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BizBroker

What free market for labor when the Chamber of Commerce and the GOP flood us with cheap imported labor at all levels of skill, H-1B to landscapers? Right................


89 posted on 08/21/2019 1:14:02 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

So you agree that it creates inflation, and when the businesses have to raise the prices of their products they ultimately price themselves out of customers. If the other skilled employees have their compensation increased, then those at the bottom soon find themselves in the same position as before. Surely you see the circular affects of raising minimum wages actually create, don’t you?


90 posted on 08/21/2019 1:15:36 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong; Penelope Dreadful

There is no historical data supporting the long held supposition that past increases in the minimum wage pushed up inflation. I am going to post in the near future a thread containing data and facts showing zero correlation between the two. Of coarse all will ignore the facts.


91 posted on 08/21/2019 1:24:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Actually many do ! Particularly in the social sciences, if “data ex nihilo” is needed to fit their political biases. Paul Krugman comes to mind. There are studies out there that show increase minimum wage yields increased unemployment. You can find them as easily as I can.

Not saying your wrong or its right. One should not accept data uncritically. Don’t we criticize the “warmies” for doing that! My first reading of the paper yields an initial impression of “cherry picking” to get the desired result. For example in the cases cited I think there was a lot more going on economically then what’s compared.

Question: Then labor costs don’t matter? The customer will always absorb the increases?


92 posted on 08/21/2019 1:24:53 PM PDT by Reily
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To: ChildOfThe60s
The real min wage in 1972 was $1.60.

$1.60 in 1972 is equivalent in purchasing power to about $9.82 in 2019. The current min wage is $7.25/hr. You made 35% more than minimum wage in today's dollars.

93 posted on 08/21/2019 1:29:14 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Reily
There are studies out there that show increase minimum wage yields increased unemployment. You can find them as easily as I can.

I am not looking at studies I am looking at raw data. Do you know the difference?

94 posted on 08/21/2019 1:32:27 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

ok Do you always start a discussion out with an insult?


95 posted on 08/21/2019 1:35:27 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Mastador1; central_va
Clearly, central_va "knows it all" and cannot conceive of any alternate scenarios; what *I* want to know, is what gives him the right to establish a minimum wage in the first place? He does NOT own my business ...

I'm being placed in the servitude of government, call it slavery, with such dictates.

96 posted on 08/21/2019 1:36:32 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: Robert DeLong
Raising the min has created inflation in the past but there are also times when inflation was stagnant or only increasing slightly and the wage was increased several times.

I'd show you the data of inflation vs min wage but I think you lack the intellectual honesty to draw obvious conclusions. You are brain washed.

97 posted on 08/21/2019 1:41:38 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Reily

Do you know the difference?


98 posted on 08/21/2019 1:42:19 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: _Jim; Reily; Robert DeLong; Mastador1; ChildOfThe60s; Penelope Dreadful
In a political sense raising the minimum wage would help me indirectly. It would be savvy for the GOP to get on board with say a $12/hr minimum wage. The GOP needs to expand its base from "corporate managers", investors and small business owners to include the huge swaths of the electorate that earn wages, from unskilled to high tech workers. Instead of a base of about 10-20 million how about a base of 100,000?!!!

The GOP getting behind a modest increase in the min wage would pay huge dividends politically, not do any damage to the economy and would show that the GOP has indeed turned a corner.

It think post Trump the GOP is toast.

Being FOR the wage earner does not make a person a socialist. The GOP getting behind an increase the min wage would be a sign that the GOP gets it.

99 posted on 08/21/2019 1:56:05 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
Being FOR the wage earner does not make a person a socialist.

Supporting price controls does not make one a socialist?

Tell me more...

100 posted on 08/21/2019 2:11:54 PM PDT by gogeo (The left prides themselves on being tolerant, but they can't even be civil.)
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