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US monitoring Hong Kong border as Chinese forces gather en masse
New York Post ^ | July 30, 2019 | 10:56pm 1 hour ago | By Joe Tacopino

Posted on 07/30/2019 9:12:15 PM PDT by cba123

The White House is closely monitoring a situation described by an administration official as a “congregation of Chinese forces on Hong Kong’s border,” according to a report Tuesday.

The reason for the buildup, which includes the Chinese military or armed police, was not clear but came amid violent protests in the region, Bloomberg reported.

(please see link, for the full story)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; hongkong
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To: Jumper

Kriggrel is the only one here who brought up Taiwan. This is serious enough to the Chicoms that should this trigger more protests throughout the country Xi may choose to go for broke as his entire rule may be threatened. Remember the Generals and the falklands?


81 posted on 07/31/2019 6:19:10 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: Jumper

Yes, and they have been making further improvements.


82 posted on 07/31/2019 6:25:14 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Yes. Taiwan is a separate country that survived the partitican by Mao.

HK was to have a 50-year period of adjustment into China. The Corrupt Crown and International Banking went along in the belief that China’s entry into the WTO would bring her into a world where free trade was the guiding principle for peace and prosperity.

Deflect from the internal Chinese bad news cycle of poor economic performance. Swallow up HK and your GDP for internal consumption immediately jumps wiping out the poor economic performance.

Only if the world immediately protests by recalling the Ambassadors and breaking diplomatic relations will the force on the border be stopped.

Halting trade in ports, sending backs ship enroute, and stopping all Chicom shipping headed to western ports might be the appropriate message.

If we are to continue to do business with a county and philosophy that killed more people than Hitler and Stalin combined, then we are accessory to the continued murderous one party system in China and it really doesn’t matter when War starts because War happens when Laws no longer work.


83 posted on 07/31/2019 6:28:45 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: cba123
It will be Tiananmen times 2356...
84 posted on 07/31/2019 6:56:24 AM PDT by Magnum44 (My comprehensive terrorism plan: Hunt them down and kill them.)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

[Was stupid then and it is now.]

yep


85 posted on 07/31/2019 7:02:42 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: granada

“Trump government’d better not to get involved in China’s sovereignty issue.”

Says who, you? The Chinese have involved themselves in out politics and we are entirely in the right when we return the favor.


86 posted on 07/31/2019 7:09:38 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (Freeper formerly known as WMarshal.......)
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To: Buckeye McFrog; BobL
"The difference between now and 1989 is that the US has a POTUS who won’t stand idly by and let the ChiComs run over their own people with tanks in the name of preserving cheap labor."

That, and the fact that it will be far more difficult for the ChiComs to control the images, videos and live streams coming out of HK to the point where even the Europeans might actually stand up straight and take notice.

87 posted on 07/31/2019 7:29:35 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: VanDeKoik

The 99 year lease was not signed with the Revolutionary opposition forces of Chairman Mao, it was signed with the legitimate previous government of China.

The problem was when the revolutionaries were recognized and given ‘legitimacy.’ In our case it was the dumbass Jimmy Carter who extended formal recognition in 1979. The UK attempted to do so right after WW2 but it was rejected... I think they finally did it in 1950.

I suppose we could simply formally recognize Taiwan if the PRC gets violent with HK.


88 posted on 07/31/2019 7:51:16 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: piasa

“I suppose we could simply formally recognize Taiwan if the PRC gets violent with HK.”

And then what?


89 posted on 07/31/2019 8:22:32 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

...And then realise that that declaration carries the same weight and measure as a formal declaration of war against Mainland China, and be prepared to reap the whirlwind.

Unless the west is indeed prepared for WWIII, Taiwan’s reclamation by Mainland China is pretty much a foregone conclusion at this point, and the ChiComs know it.


90 posted on 07/31/2019 10:09:16 AM PDT by Kriggerel ("All great truths are hard and bitter, but lies... are sweeter than wild honey" (Ragnar Redbeard))
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To: VanDeKoik

“Once the UK recognized the PRC as the legitimate government of China, all treaties passed to them.”

No.

You’re known here as. a ChiCom propagandist.

The above is classic ChiCom party line.

The Joint Declaration was a new treaty between PRC and UK with international oversight.

Every nation in the world is a stakeholder.

And yes, “China could virtually cut the place off if they wanted”.

Leave it to you to cite communist barbarity as a reason for acquiescing to them.


91 posted on 07/31/2019 10:48:36 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Reno89519

“Hong Kong is not our problem. China is our enemy and we should treat it as such but this is an internal Chinese matter.”

Hong Kong has been our partner and ally longer than the PRC has existed.

When you say it iis an internal Chinese matter you are echoing the butchers of Beijing standard party line, which us sad and pathetic.

You (and the communists) are also wrong and you do not know or understand the treaty that “returned” Hong Kong to China.


92 posted on 07/31/2019 10:58:58 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Zhang Fei

“Xi Jinping is extremely intolerant and domineering.”

I agree with this.

But moreso, he is weak. There is a power vacuum. All the long marchers are dead.

Jiang and Hu were designated by Deng before he died.

Now it’s pure power struggle among a group who have no “Mandate of Heaven”.

They know it and so does everyone in China.


93 posted on 07/31/2019 11:03:12 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Zhang Fei
"Hongkongers out on the streets may finally get him to the point that he mows thousands of protestors down, pour encourageur les autres."

It's kill the chicken to scare the monkeys

杀鸡儆猴

In this case Hong Kong would be the chicken.

I still, though, can't believe they would or will massacre people in Hong Kong like in a Beijing in 1989.

It's pretty much impossible. Xi is not that stupid.

But military marshall law I can see.

Either way is wrong and violates joint agreement.

94 posted on 07/31/2019 11:12:57 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Zhang Fei

“sanctions on China after Tiananmen Square were mild, and business as usual”

Yes.

And even worse. Only a month after, Bush secretly sent Brent Scowcroft and Lawrence Eagleburger to Beijing to assure Li Peng everything was fine and to ignore the public pronouncements condemning the massacre.

True scum.


95 posted on 07/31/2019 11:18:34 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: teacherwoes

“suppose, in a western way of thinking, there isn’t any reason for China to send troops. But this is China”

That’s the tub.

The whole point if the protests is Hong Kongers saying it is not China.


96 posted on 07/31/2019 11:20:54 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: cba123

When they send in the tanks and slaughter any dissent Trump will lower the boom and demand the Eurotrash follow suit putting the screws to the chicoms.


97 posted on 07/31/2019 11:30:36 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: BobL; Hillarys Gate Cult

“Hong Kong Independence was possible when the Brits gave it back. Not now. Was stupid then and it is now.”

Yes.

It still is.

PRC have breached the agreement. It’s an international treaty.

People act as if Hong Kongers aren’t people and have no rights and as if the agreement for PRC to have responsibility for protecting Hong Kong is some sort of divine decree.

It wasn’t.

If a party breaches, the agreement becomes void.


98 posted on 07/31/2019 11:38:44 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Freeport

Creepy comment, man.

Really puts you in a bad light.


99 posted on 07/31/2019 11:40:20 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: piasa; VanDeKoik

By the way, VanDeKoik is a ChiCom propagandist.

You can understand everything he says when knowing that.


100 posted on 07/31/2019 11:44:14 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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