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Women Aren’t The Only People Who Get Abortions
The Huffington Post ^ | 6/6/2019 | Alanna Vagianos

Posted on 06/06/2019 2:35:25 PM PDT by MountainWalker

Jack Qu’emi Gutiérrez was a 20-year-old college student in a self-described “sh---y relationship” when they found out they were pregnant.

It was 2011 and Gutiérrez, a nonbinary person who uses the pronouns they/them, had to pool all their money at the time to pay the $500 to get the abortion pill. Even though Gutiérrez chose to have a medication abortion (“I didn’t want a bunch of people in my crotch”), they were still forced to undergo two trans-vaginal ultrasounds before obtaining the abortion pill.

Help us tell more of the stories that matter from voices that too often remain unheard. “I felt very, very much alone,” Gutiérrez told HuffPost. “I didn’t have any frame of reference for what an abortion would be like, period. Not to mention what an abortion would be like as a nonbinary person.”

Although Gutiérrez went to Planned Parenthood, they were constantly misgendered and there was no option for preferred pronouns or name on the intake form.

“I got called ‘Miss’ and ‘Ma’am’ all the time,” they said. “And [the staff] was super sweet to me, but I was too terrified to really sit down and have a conversation and say, ‘Hey, my pronouns are this and my identity is this, could you stop doing that?’ I was too busy going, ‘Holy sh-t, I’m in a clinic and I don’t know what to expect.’” (Planned Parenthood now offers preferred pronouns and gender identity options on their intake forms.)

That experience left Gutiérrez feeling violated, shameful and, later, angry. “I feel like I always have to justify my existence and explain why I need to be treated like a human being,” they said.

In the wake of extreme abortion restrictions in states like Georgia, Alabama, Missouri and Ohio, Gutiérrez said they found that anger bubbling up again.

“To completely ignore a giant group of people that need access - and who are already having a hard time going into health care spaces - it is just mind-blowing to me, and it’s incredibly frustrating,” Gutiérrez said.

Make no mistake: The abortion bans are absolutely an attack on cis women. It’s part of a larger war on women that’s been raging for decades, and it’s deeply rooted in misogyny and sexism. But these bans also affect transgender, intersex and other gender-nonconforming people.

Cazembe Murphy Jackson, a transgender man, said his abortion experience was similar to Gutiérrez’s. Jackson was raped his junior year in college and, six weeks later, had to take out a loan to get an abortion at a Planned Parenthood in Texas.

“It was awkward because people were not competent around trans masculine folks getting abortions. One of the first questions I got was ‘Is this [abortion] for your partner?’” he said.

At the time, Jackson did not identify as a man but told HuffPost he was openly queer and presented as trans masculine or butch.

Similar to Gutiérrez, Jackson agreed that Planned Parenthood was by far the safest place for him to get an abortion. And yet, nurses and doctors still had little practice in giving care to trans presenting people.

“Our health care professionals have to be more educated on who gets abortions and who needs them,” he said. “People expect a certain type of body to come in to get abortions and that’s just not the case. It’s never been the case.”

And therein lies the problem. Even the most progressive health organizations, like Planned Parenthood, are still not up to speed on some of the most rudimental ways to give competent and compassionate care to trans and nonbinary folks.

“Even the pro-choice people are constantly, constantly choosing to ignore my existence,” Gutiérrez said.

A System Designed To Fail Gender-Nonconforming People

Dr. Krystal Redman, executive director of southeastern nonprofit SPARK: Reproductive Justice Now, pointed to the fact that, historically, legislation in the U.S. has been created by cisgender white people. And that, she argued, creates a systemic “narrative of gender being binary.”

“Just based on the history of how these laws were created, naturally the narrative and the conversations behind it become this cis-het [cisgender, heteronormative] centered narrative,” said Redman, a cisgender woman.

The language of choice was specifically created by cisgender people for cisgender people, Redman explained. Instead of the question being “Are you male or female?″ or “Do you have insurance or are you uninsured?”, the question for most nonbinary and gender-nonconforming folks is, “What provider can I go to that truly understands the dynamics of my body?”

“Cis folks need to understand that they operate within a privilege,” Redman said. “I don’t care what other racial or ethnic identity you identify with but just by the premise of being cis-identified, there is so much more privilege that you have over folks who do not identify as cis.”

In addition to going up against a legislative system created for cisgender people, trans and gender-nonconforming folks have to deal with a health care system that continually erases and oppresses them.

A Lambda Legal survey found that 70% of trans people experience serious discrimination when seeking medical care. According to a 2011 National Center for Transgender Equality survey of over 6,000 gender non-conforming Americans, 19% of respondents said they had been refused medical services because of their gender identity. Additionally, 28% reported that they have postponed necessary health care for fear of discrimination, and 33% delayed or didn’t seek preventative care because of past discrimination they experienced due to their gender identity.

These issues will only be magnified for gender-nonconforming folks seeking abortions in the wake of extreme restrictions and bans. Redman said the recent abortion restrictions will “absolutely” raise the stakes for trans and gender-nonconforming people, especially those of color.

The lives of trans and gender-nonconforming people will be directly endangered because of these restrictions, Gutiérrez added.

“I feel like more people in my community are probably going to be even less inclined to seek medical care for any reason,” they said.

“You’re going to have a lot higher rates of illness of all kinds in transgender and nonconforming communities, and I expect the suicide rate to go up if abortion is not accessible,” Gutiérrez added. “I know that if I had been forced to take that thing to term ... There’s no way I would be here for you to talk to me now.”

Abortion Care As A Women+ Issue

“People with uteruses have abortions. It’s not up to cis folks to determine how those people identify,” Redman said.

By making abortion conversations inclusive, Jackson said, we aren’t erasing the majority of cis-women who obtain abortions - we are simply making room for some of the most marginalized.

“For me, abortion can be a women’s issue. You can talk about women power and all of that,” he said. “But that means a few things: One, you’ve got to include trans women in the conversation because trans women are also women. And, two, you have to include trans men and nonbinary folks because we are also affected by this.”

Gutiérrez was more assertive and demanded way more from a system that has repeatedly and continually erased their humanity.

“I’ve been asked to be patient since the moment I stepped foot into this movement,” they said.

“I’ve been told by those in reproductive justice organizations that, ‘We’ll get to you eventually, we’ll get to your people eventually. Let’s get abortion access for women first, just women, and then we’ll include transgender and non-conforming people,’” Gutiérrez said. “But no, that’s not how that works. Because it isn’t liberation unless everyone is free.”


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To: Jamestown1630

Because our public has been taught that there is no moral compass.

The further you distance yourself from morality, the easier it is to sucker for these things.

Physicians, psychologists are no different than others.

These people aren’t different to them. The are their own special entity, each varied group. What right does anyone have to label them an anomaly?

They’re just bogged down in the process of thinking straight. This is too much for them.

In the haste to make everyone “okay”, nobody is normal. There is no normal. That is now deemed to have been since the dawn of man, a false premise.

W R O N G !


61 posted on 06/06/2019 4:05:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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To: dp0622

Look at post #9 in this thread.


62 posted on 06/06/2019 4:09:37 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Who will think of the gerbils ? Just say no to Buttgiggity !)
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To: SaveFerris

Shouldn’t be non-binary they should be hexadecimal... I think they’re getting up to 16 letters or so on the LGBTQRSTUVWXVY thing.


63 posted on 06/06/2019 4:11:44 PM PDT by maddog55
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To: Responsibility2nd

LOL

I mentioned THIS episode in a much later post and someone referred me to your post.

Great minds and all.... :)


64 posted on 06/06/2019 4:15:10 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Mr.Unique

Yes who pretended to be male but still got shagged anyhow and knocked up

Isn’t that it


65 posted on 06/06/2019 4:21:21 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: MountainWalker

How many Welfare checks are We receiving?

Jesus wept.


66 posted on 06/06/2019 4:22:35 PM PDT by _longranger81 (Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves; defend the defenseless; care for the unloved.)
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To: MountainWalker

I think I figured it out. People who are really, really ugly change to another gender out of desperation.. Hideous. I emailed this article to a friend earlier today. I mean, just read it, I’m so confused.

If you have a vagina/uterus you are a woman, if you have a penis you are a man...it’s not rocket science. Only women can have abortions. See, real simple.

These stupid, attention-seeing freaks who are .1 percent (but growing) are going to have us jump through all these labelling hoops and the second we get confused we’re “haters”.

Get a life you LOSERS.


67 posted on 06/06/2019 4:31:22 PM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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To: MountainWalker

See my tag line.


68 posted on 06/06/2019 4:31:44 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Three days in FB prison for this...'What was "IT"? A DNA XX or a DNA XY?')
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To: OpusatFR

It absolutely has to stop.


69 posted on 06/06/2019 4:32:13 PM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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To: Jamestown1630

To be “cis” is to be a NAZI. I’m telling you we’re going to have to fight these freaks with physical means, they WILL force the issue. God Damn FREAKS and LOSERS I’m so damn sick of this shit.


70 posted on 06/06/2019 4:35:54 PM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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To: dp0622

Reminds me of the guy who transed to a woman and declared himself a lesbian because he still liked women.


71 posted on 06/06/2019 4:36:49 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Three days in FB prison for this...'What was "IT"? A DNA XX or a DNA XY?')
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

LOL

SMH :)


72 posted on 06/06/2019 4:37:39 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: DoughtyOne
They’re just bogged down in the process of thinking straight. This is too much for them.

I think that's the key, more than 'moral compass'. Of course, morality has become very flexible/fungible to many people; but the loss of the capacity for thinking logically seems even more ominous to me. After all, a sense of morality does derive in great part from the ability to think logically.
73 posted on 06/06/2019 4:38:17 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

It reminds me of Woody in A Toy Story

“you..ARE A TOY!!!!”

I don’t know if you saw it but another toy thinks he’s a spaceman and finds out the hard way he IS INDEED a toy.

How can you see pictures and images and videos of REAL WOMEN and think you can EVER BE THAT??


74 posted on 06/06/2019 4:39:22 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: toddausauras; Liz
The kind of 'freak and loser' in this article has no desire or wherewithal to fight beyond the words "Look At Me!!!" - and maybe through a possibly lucrative lawsuit.

I'll refer you to the sig. of our FRiend, Liz:

"Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use."

I have no taste for shooting silly little fish in a barrel.
75 posted on 06/06/2019 4:49:10 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: Jamestown1630

They have very powerful forces on their side don’t underestimate them.


76 posted on 06/06/2019 4:54:52 PM PDT by toddausauras (How far will the left go in terms of destroying our personal freedoms?)
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To: toddausauras

I think many here actually underestimate the sense and numbers of the average, decent American citizen. That came through in 2016, and it will come through again.


77 posted on 06/06/2019 5:00:36 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it")
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To: MountainWalker

She’s literally insane. Capable of getting pregnant and still denies being female.


78 posted on 06/06/2019 5:01:30 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Jamestown1630

I agree with you to a point.

On some issues morality does come into play though.

You know, what’s the justification of doing things right?

If there is no moral compass, why not do just what you please, with no guilt at all.

When it comes to the new gender issues, we had a moral compass to guide us. God created us in His image. Any deviation from that was considered and abomination.

That being said, I’m not here to condemn people who are having gender issues. I still want it recognized for what it is though. It isn’t mainstream or just another gender to be considered on the same level as heterosexuals.

I don’t advocated any punishment or even looking down on these folks, but reality is reality. They are anomalies and nothing more.

They can’t even sustain their numbers on their own if they follow through with risky surgeries.


79 posted on 06/06/2019 5:10:01 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Can I get a shout out for the person(s) who donated $2,000.00 from France? Thanks so much! Wow!)
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To: MountainWalker
It's like a choose your own adventure novel in the Twilight Zone.......

If you were born with a vagina, but think you're a man, turn to page 33

If you were born with a vagina, are pregnant, and still think you're a man, turn to page 107.

If you were born with a vagina and think you're a heterosexual woman, stop reading, because you're probably a Trump loving, hate filled, nazi. There is no need to turn to any page because it's settle science that you're a nazi.

80 posted on 06/06/2019 5:12:24 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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