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Trump should stop attacking and lying about McCain
Washington Examiner ^ | March 20, 2019 10:00 AM | Quin Hillyer

Posted on 03/21/2019 5:54:19 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

One can spend several days trying not to overreact to President Trump’s latest, unprovoked tweetstorm against the late Sen. John McCain R-Ariz., yet still conclude that there is something sick and twisted about Trump’s obsession with the singular American hero Trump disparages.

Tom Rogan already in these pages has eloquently explained why, fake heel spurs or no fake heel spurs, Trump could never be fit to wear McCain’s discarded shoes. And lawyer George Conway, husband of top Trump aide Kellyanne Conway, has presented a persuasive case that Trump’s fulminations about McCain and other bizarre eruptions are signs of a personality disorder.

What remains, though, is a reminder that on facts as well as fulminations, Trump’s flip-out against McCain is full of falsehoods.

First, as many others have noted, Trump repeatedly accused McCain of trying to spread the so-called “Steele dossier” as a way to block Trump’s election, but the undisputed evidence shows McCain didn’t even become aware of the dossier until after Election Day. (Plus, McCain did exactly what a senator should do when provided such material: He turned it over to the FBI, without prejudice. But that’s beside the point about Trump’s dishonesty.)

What has not been as adequately refuted is Trump’s allegation that McCain voted against a bill to “repeal and replace” Obamacare, and that McCain’s vote was a big surprise. Neither element of that story is true.

First, by the time a healthcare bill finally reached a vote in the Senate, it was in no way, shape or form a “repeal and replace” bill. In reality, it was a shell of a bill known as “skinny repeal,” which did next to nothing other than keep...

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To: humblegunner
Plus, he called me a hobbit.

I ain't no damn hobbit, dammit.


161 posted on 03/21/2019 7:32:07 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Mccain should be dug up, placed on a trailer, and dragged around the country stopping every few miles for people to relieve themselves on, as an example of what a backstabbing, duplitious, lying, vindictive, treasonous, isis supporting, pow deserting, treacherous, seditious piece of shit should be treated.


162 posted on 03/21/2019 7:33:47 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Boy, the usual Never Trumpers are out in spades this morning!


163 posted on 03/21/2019 7:33:58 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

Ross Perot’s campaign mgr was in the Hanoi Hilton with McCain. He was telling the truth about him and Perot made him stop. He knew slamming a so called war hero wouldn’t help his campaign.

McCain crashed Two planes, one in training. His father beiig an admiral kept him from being washed out.

When he accepted the nomination he said about the Vietnamese “They broke me.” He was afraid the truth was going to come out. If he had gotten close in the polls to Obama the truth would have come out and he would have been proven a fraud. I can only imagine what the Clinton machine would have done to him if she had run against him.

Simply do a search about him and start reading. Some I’m sure you should take with a grain of salt. But read about the Vietnamese peasant who saved him from being beaten to death by the villagers. He wanted to meet McCain when he visited Vietnam and McCain refused to even thank the man.
And those injuries weren’t from being tortured. They were all from the ejection.

One more thing, he was shot down because he was hot dogging and flying too low. He mentioned at the beginning if his acceptance speech that he had the swagger of a fighter pilot “but they broke me.”


164 posted on 03/21/2019 7:34:38 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I)
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To: DoodleDawg

As I said, the Never Trumpers are out today, lol!


165 posted on 03/21/2019 7:35:46 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Terry Mross

Thanks for the info. I’ll have to look into all this myself so I’ll be googling today. It seems from what you wrote, that refusing to thank people is a McCain family trait. Isn’t that sad?


166 posted on 03/21/2019 7:37:46 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: over3Owithabrain

And what impact did the failure to repeal Obamacare have on the 2018 midterms?


167 posted on 03/21/2019 7:37:54 AM PDT by kabar
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To: dynoman
Thanks for posting that. I thought they were lost for good.

I've been posting this list of FR thread from the period.

It has been known here since 2017 that the "dossier" was said to have been created by 4chan authors hoaxing others.


From January 2017: 4Chan Claims To Have Fabricated Anti-Trump Report As A Hoax - thread 1

From January 2017: 4Chan Claims To Have Fabricated Anti-Trump Report As A Hoax - thread 2

From January 2017: FAKE NEWS: BuzzFeed and CNN fall for Trump P-ss Story That was 4Chan Prank

From January 2017: Cernovich Reporting the Trump Intel Story was a 4CHAN Catfish that Rick Wilson Fell For

All of the original 4chan graphics of internet chats discussing this have been purged from the internet.


-PJ

168 posted on 03/21/2019 7:38:09 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: miss marmelstein

“Boy, the usual Never Trumpers are out in spades this morning!”

Yeah but they’re total losers. Ineffective shills for the Uniparty.


169 posted on 03/21/2019 7:38:45 AM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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To: bagster

I thought the Hobbits were the heroes in that C.S. Lewis book,
defeating Darth Vader and his Ceylons and leading the rest of
the Goonies through the tunnels and stuff. And brought back summertime.

You is clearly un-read and ignert.


170 posted on 03/21/2019 7:39:05 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: over3Owithabrain

Some posting here I remember all the way back to the campaign. They’re pretty shameless.


171 posted on 03/21/2019 7:39:57 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: nopardons

We need your help here.


172 posted on 03/21/2019 7:40:56 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: hotsteppa

For too long, the dems can do any dastardly deeds, and the reps have acquiesced and took it. Now we have someone who doesn’t lay down and be the patsy. We wanted a fighter.. we got one. Mccain was a snake and the left thought he walked on water.. mccain personally did all he could to destroy Trump.. no man has been subjected to what Trump has... and he’s supposed to be the only one who has to suck it up? And take it?


173 posted on 03/21/2019 7:41:04 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie (Per)
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To: JayGalt; E. Pluribus Unum; miss marmelstein

Call it what you will, insult me if you like, but I have my opinion and as long as I have such and a forum here to express it, I will.


174 posted on 03/21/2019 7:41:44 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Academia is where totally useless, parasitic ideologues and idiots go to hide from reality.)
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To: DoodleDawg

She has attacked Trump for many months starting at the funeral. He has always shown restraint towards her as a grieving daughter. McCain’s actions in bringing a dossier that he knew was paid for by Clinton into the FBI outside of normal channels because he knew it wouldn’t stand scrutiny are just coming out. President Trump commented on those actions, these were not unwarranted comments or unfair. Meghan McCain went ballistic but still POTUS is restrained because she is a daughter defending her father. President Trump communicates on social media to get the truth out. This is a truth.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1107020360803909632

Spreading the fake and totally discredited Dossier “is unfortunately a very dark stain against John McCain.” Ken Starr, Former Independent Counsel. He had far worse “stains” than this, including thumbs down on repeal and replace after years of campaigning to repeal and replace!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1107260609974943745

So it was indeed (just proven in court papers) “last in his class” (Annapolis) John McCain that sent the Fake Dossier to the FBI and Media hoping to have it printed BEFORE the Election. He & the Dems, working together, failed (as usual). Even the Fake News refused this garbage!


175 posted on 03/21/2019 7:43:02 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

McCain deserved every syllable and more. I once had respect for the man and I still respect his service. The man was a hateful, selfish lying a$$hole and I am sure that he is steaming in hell even as I type this.

Oh, and his dumbs&&t daughter should just shut her fat face. I have lost what little respect I once had for her.


176 posted on 03/21/2019 7:43:20 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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To: hotsteppa
Should the fact that McCain tried to damage him without cause be swept under the rug?

But McCain did have cause to damage Trump: First, Trump publicly called McCain a loser for losing to Obammy. Second, Trump publicly stated that McCain is only a "war hero" because he was captured, and that he doesn't like people who are captured. Third, Trump accomplished something that McCain failed to achieve -- winning the election for POTUS. McCain, being the small, petty, vengeful, narcissistic turd that he was could never get over these "insults" and that's why he orchestrated a coup to take down our president.

177 posted on 03/21/2019 7:44:59 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Labyrinthos

The man divorced his injured wife, raising 3 sons alone while he was imprisoned, to marry a heiress before the divorce was even final. (recent news drop)
With that in mind I believe there was also money involved as a motivating force.


178 posted on 03/21/2019 7:48:23 AM PDT by JayGalt (You can't teach a donkey how to tap dance.)
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To: frnewsjunkie
...the left thought he walked on water.

Actually, they only put on that face when the stain was bad rapping conservatives.

otherwise, they loathed him.

He was the quintessential useful idiot.

179 posted on 03/21/2019 7:48:47 AM PDT by going hot (happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Above all that? You mean the biggest political scandal in American history where people like McCain tried to remove him from office in an attempted coup? The American people need to know all the details, including naming all of the participants and what they did. McCain was part of the plot. The recent unsealed testimony of McCain aide, Kramer, should be known far and wide.

This isn’t about being a “bigger man”, but rather revealing a vile plot not only against Trump, but the 63 million Americans who voted for him.


180 posted on 03/21/2019 7:50:38 AM PDT by kabar
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