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EPA pushes forward plan to increase ethanol mix in gasoline
The Hill ^ | 03/12/19 03:19 PM EDT | MIRANDA GREEN

Posted on 03/12/2019 6:33:55 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: RicocheT

The broken window fallacy. But it creates jobs?>>! How is this not good for America?

Ed Wallace has talked about this for years. The EPA’s own reports on ethanol were proven to be false and manipulated.

Very disappointing. The EPA doesn’t need to hardly exist. Pay ‘em to do nothing rather than something that f’s crap up.


41 posted on 03/12/2019 8:26:12 PM PDT by Sheapdog (Chew the meat, spit out the bones - FUBO - Come and get me)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Its another fraud and a waste.

The increased ethanol also decreases mileage, so your "pollutants per mile" remain the same.

Not to mention the ethanol costs more to produce.

This is a sop for the farm vote.

42 posted on 03/12/2019 8:34:31 PM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why? There is no shortage of crude.

(I drive a diesel, so I’m not worried about my vehicle getting ‘gummed up’ by an ‘ethanol snafu’ ... )


43 posted on 03/12/2019 8:40:27 PM PDT by _Jim (Save babies)
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To: DarthVader

They ruined those with low sulfur fuel, def fluid and other things that make them get gasoline like mileage at twice the cost.


44 posted on 03/12/2019 8:41:56 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Directionally wrong.


45 posted on 03/12/2019 8:45:02 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Trump 2020 - Re-Elect the M*****F***er!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If President Trump ever mentions this at a rally he should be booed LOUDLY. He needs to understand this is a stupid idea.


46 posted on 03/12/2019 8:53:59 PM PDT by Trumpnado2016 (Welcome to Trump World.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
I understand you had better get the Farmers on your side come Election time, but Gasoline is best served pure as the driven snow.

This was a ploy to help in Iowa, but I wonder what percentage of Iowans actually even care. Our daughter lives in Iowa and she and her husband are against it. Ethanol in gasoline is a huge waste and it causes all sorts of problems.

47 posted on 03/12/2019 9:35:52 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Why would we be adding an expensive less efficient fuel when we are floating on a sea of oil?


48 posted on 03/12/2019 9:42:11 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Stupidity
Ethanol is pure stupidity
Lets turn food into fuel which loses net energy
Duh !
Hydrogen is the long term answer


49 posted on 03/12/2019 9:50:55 PM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump is screwing up this and H1-B’s, *bigly*.
Wish he’d stop listening to Kushner and Ivanka.


50 posted on 03/13/2019 12:57:41 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Please dear God no!


51 posted on 03/13/2019 2:50:11 AM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I believe the majority of cars out there today can not handle more than 10% Ethanol. 15% will kill them.

I know my wife’s 2014 Rav4 says 10% Ethanol only.

Will the Gov’t now be buying me a new car because they will destroy my current one?


52 posted on 03/13/2019 3:00:38 AM PDT by CapnJack
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Not a fan of ethanol in gas but a lot of cars are designed to be able to run on high-ethanol mixtures and modern cars are designed to not be harmed by higher mixtures. Seems like small engine manufacturers should be able to make their stuff more durable under the realities of the day...but perhaps they like having their products be more “disposable” to increase sales.
One shouldn’t make swim suits out of material that dissolves in water or make engines that get ruined because there’s ethanol in the gas.
I’ve run ethanol-free gas from time to time, in several different vehicles, and noticed no difference in performance or mileage.


53 posted on 03/13/2019 3:21:34 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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I find 89 octane gives me a better mileage/price/power balance for the average run of the mill cars I drive. The 87 is cheapest but I can feel the performance loss though mileage is better than 91 octane. I get better power with high octane but my mileage drops and the price is expensive.The mid grades are “middling” expensive but I see better mileage as the better power seems to provide more efficiency per mile which negates the extra expense per gallon as compared with octane 87. Still not as much power with 88-89 compared with higher octanes but definitely more oomph than 87, especially on hill climbs.


54 posted on 03/13/2019 3:33:21 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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I have a 2018 Mercedes GLC 300 - has a turbo and they say not to put under 91 Octane in it..I decided to try 89 octane because some folks at the dealership said one could “get away with mid-grade”....been two weeks and 450 miles or so and so far no perceptible difference except I seem to be getting about a half mile to the gallon better - of course that’s a possible ‘glitch” in the figuring with different driving conditions from time to time....no pongs or other signs anything is unhappy and if there’s a power difference it’s too subtle for me to pick up on...and about 30 cents a gallon cheaper than hi-test....we seem to have similar findings.


55 posted on 03/13/2019 3:49:58 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: CapnJack
I believe the majority of cars out there today can not handle more than 10% Ethanol. 15% will kill them.

Think cash for clunkers without the cash

56 posted on 03/13/2019 6:40:03 AM PDT by hadaclueonce ( This time I am Deplorable)
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