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Loggers support Trump's claim that wildfires caused by 'poor forest management'
washingtontimes.com ^ | 11/16/2018 | Jennifer Harper

Posted on 11/19/2018 8:27:04 AM PST by rktman

A national logging organization is offering support to President Trump following catastrophic wildfires in California and a political debate over the causes of the destructive blazes.

“President Trump blamed poor forest management for wildfires in California and throughout the West, and there is truth to statements he has made,” said Daniel Dructor, executive vice president of the American Loggers Council, a coalition of state and regional associations that represents independent contract loggers.

“It’s time to rise above political posturing and recognize that active forest management — including logging, thinning, grazing and controlled burning — are tools that can and must be used to reduce fire risks and help mitigate the impacts to landscapes,” Mr. Dructor said in a statement.

According to the council, some 60 million to 80 million acres of national forest are at “high, to very high, risk of catastrophic wildfire.”

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California; US: Montana; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: california; campfire; drought; globalwarminghoax; loggers; logging; sierranevadas; stakeholders; treekillers; wildfires
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Sure they said that. They have money on the line here. We all KNOW it's because of glowBULL climate discombobulation. Thanks loggers. Tough job for tough folks.
1 posted on 11/19/2018 8:27:04 AM PST by rktman
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To: rktman

Jerry Brown is clinically insane and should be removed from office on psychological fitness grounds. Just yesterday, standing amongst ashes, he went off on climate change as the culprit.


2 posted on 11/19/2018 8:32:15 AM PST by SpaceBar
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I live in the middle of gov control forest. It is a massive fire hazard. We get fires up here all the time, had to evacuate one year. Forest service won’t let anyone cut down the trees killed by the pine beetle.

We have dead trees all over the place, then lighting comes and boom, fire.


3 posted on 11/19/2018 8:33:14 AM PST by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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To: rktman

Bring this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zB6WvcZEYc

And an army of flail mowers.


4 posted on 11/19/2018 8:38:12 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: ColdOne

Same here in Wyoming. When you head up into the mountains it’s obvious the forest is over grown and over saturated with beetle kill. It’s a tinderbox. Anyone with common sense could do a better job than the clowns in the USFS. My theory is their superiors want all the trees in the west to burn so we can see an up tick in CO2 (trees love CO2 in case you didn’t know that) and be able to scream gloBULL warming.


5 posted on 11/19/2018 8:39:10 AM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: rktman

The Enviroweenies would rather see a tree burned then to be harvested to provide lumber for homes and furniture and other useful works. The lives and destroyed homes of so many are at their feet. They need to learn and help with the actual management of the forests.


6 posted on 11/19/2018 8:40:30 AM PST by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ColdOne

I mentioned this last week, but I remember Dr. Bill Wattenburg saying that there are never any large fires in lumber company owned forests. That was 25 or so years ago and since then I’ve heard of one.


7 posted on 11/19/2018 8:43:07 AM PST by Kipp
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To: McGavin999

Hey, when you dwell in a tiny house in the middle of the city or high rise with a 600 sq/ft apartment, what do you care about erf killers living in the woods?


8 posted on 11/19/2018 8:44:06 AM PST by rktman ( #My2nd! Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: ColdOne

IIRC, Nat’l. Parks, BLM and, other gov. agencies have abandoned maintenance of critical fire cuts as well.


9 posted on 11/19/2018 8:46:09 AM PST by Covenantor (Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern. " Chesterton)
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To: rktman

Well, when you get a haircut, you’d better go back home
When you get a haircut, get a barber you have known...


10 posted on 11/19/2018 8:48:04 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: 3boysdad
My theory is their superiors want all the trees in the west to burn so we can see an up tick in CO2 (trees love CO2 in case you didn’t know that) and be able to scream gloBULL warming.

My theory is that owners of private timber land (Weyerhaeuser, for example, owns 13 million acres of private forest) don't want the competition from public forests.

11 posted on 11/19/2018 8:48:24 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Covenantor

Yep!


12 posted on 11/19/2018 8:51:57 AM PST by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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To: SpaceBar

What was more insane was the firefighter’s chief in a TV interview saying that president Trump was completely wrong about forest management, because in California we did not really have forests like in Finland.

He was saying that it was all a ‘perfect’ storm of global warming and drought and there was nothing pro-active they could do other than pray for the people that perished in the fire.

I was so disgusted.. He sounded like a Shaman about to pray for rain with a rain dance. I switched the channel.

Oh!.. Despair....there is nothing we can do except light your lighters at night.. But wait! that evil Trump proposed something pro-active, something we could be doing to stop this devastation? Stop him! He doesn’t know what he is doing! he is not a professional bureaucrat! He might actually succeed. OMG! the horror! /s


13 posted on 11/19/2018 8:52:37 AM PST by Toughluck_freeper
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Poor forest management: A state of affairs persisting since 1990 ...


14 posted on 11/19/2018 8:54:03 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PapaBear3625

Yeah I’ve heard that one too. There’s also the theory that it’s all about water conservation - let the trees burn so there will be water. Who really knows, but we do know they’re horribly managed.


15 posted on 11/19/2018 8:54:08 AM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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It’s time to rise above political posturing and recognize that active forest management...

It makes sense to anyone involved in the wood industry. The same people that pounded spikes into trees to harm the loggers were finally able to install their perverted anti-industry/anti-growth agenda.

Back in the day, the most efficient logging procedures (high-lead logging) created quite a bit of inflammable debris ("slash"). Our federal contracts required us to control burn it to prevent spread of future fires (see Jerry Brown/California).

The process was thought so important that Forest Service reps were onsite to assure proper performance. It usually involved a very long day in a smoky environment and they were right there with us.

16 posted on 11/19/2018 8:55:18 AM PST by frog in a pot (Obama's "Remaking of America" continues apace in the absence of effective political opposition.)
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To: McGavin999

The Enviroweenies would rather see a tree burned then to be harvested to provide lumber for homes and furniture and other useful work


Wait wait ... that only applies to other people’s forests - the ones they own are just fine for logging ... clear cutting is preferred - they now have a ‘view’ property.


17 posted on 11/19/2018 8:55:59 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PapaBear3625

There is a whole lot of truth to that.


18 posted on 11/19/2018 8:57:51 AM PST by crz
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To: rktman

http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html

For me this is the definitive writing on managing forest fires. Dr. Wattenberg had late night radio show from the bay area. He worked at Lawrence Livermore Labs and was called the smartest man you can talk to for free (on the radio).

The state of Cal ignored him on gasoline additives and clearing underbrush from forests, He died 3 months ago, but his work is on the internet.


19 posted on 11/19/2018 9:00:43 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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Here is the problem. Cant cut within a 100 feet of a stream-its called a RMZ.

Why? Because of silt that might get into the stream. But mother nature doesnt care one whit about that silt does it? When it burns, it burns right to the stream bank and then all that ash gets into that stream. And ash and water combined makes what? I wonder if they think they can get lye out of that water.


20 posted on 11/19/2018 9:00:46 AM PST by crz
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