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Sure they said that. They have money on the line here. We all KNOW it's because of glowBULL climate discombobulation. Thanks loggers. Tough job for tough folks.
1 posted on 11/19/2018 8:27:04 AM PST by rktman
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Jerry Brown is clinically insane and should be removed from office on psychological fitness grounds. Just yesterday, standing amongst ashes, he went off on climate change as the culprit.


2 posted on 11/19/2018 8:32:15 AM PST by SpaceBar
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I live in the middle of gov control forest. It is a massive fire hazard. We get fires up here all the time, had to evacuate one year. Forest service won’t let anyone cut down the trees killed by the pine beetle.

We have dead trees all over the place, then lighting comes and boom, fire.


3 posted on 11/19/2018 8:33:14 AM PST by ColdOne ((I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11~ Best Election Ever!)
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Bring this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zB6WvcZEYc

And an army of flail mowers.


4 posted on 11/19/2018 8:38:12 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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The Enviroweenies would rather see a tree burned then to be harvested to provide lumber for homes and furniture and other useful works. The lives and destroyed homes of so many are at their feet. They need to learn and help with the actual management of the forests.


6 posted on 11/19/2018 8:40:30 AM PST by McGavin999 ("The press is impotent when it abandons itself to falsehood."Thomas Jefferson)
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Well, when you get a haircut, you’d better go back home
When you get a haircut, get a barber you have known...


10 posted on 11/19/2018 8:48:04 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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Poor forest management: A state of affairs persisting since 1990 ...


14 posted on 11/19/2018 8:54:03 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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It’s time to rise above political posturing and recognize that active forest management...

It makes sense to anyone involved in the wood industry. The same people that pounded spikes into trees to harm the loggers were finally able to install their perverted anti-industry/anti-growth agenda.

Back in the day, the most efficient logging procedures (high-lead logging) created quite a bit of inflammable debris ("slash"). Our federal contracts required us to control burn it to prevent spread of future fires (see Jerry Brown/California).

The process was thought so important that Forest Service reps were onsite to assure proper performance. It usually involved a very long day in a smoky environment and they were right there with us.

16 posted on 11/19/2018 8:55:18 AM PST by frog in a pot (Obama's "Remaking of America" continues apace in the absence of effective political opposition.)
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http://www.pushback.com/Wattenburg/articles/NowTheyHaveBurnedLosAlamos.html

For me this is the definitive writing on managing forest fires. Dr. Wattenberg had late night radio show from the bay area. He worked at Lawrence Livermore Labs and was called the smartest man you can talk to for free (on the radio).

The state of Cal ignored him on gasoline additives and clearing underbrush from forests, He died 3 months ago, but his work is on the internet.


19 posted on 11/19/2018 9:00:43 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Use Comey's Report; Indict Hillary now. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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Legitimate experts have written a ton of books on this. Trump and the loggers could not be more right. Let’s put aside the fact that these idiots from the gov turn everything they touch to garbage, just for the moment. These drones have absolutely no knowledge of how to manage forested land. They have their precious little nihilistic agenda and whatever degree that shows they were suitably indoctrinated and that is it. These wildfires can be laid squarely at the feet of the left and they won’t take their blame because they are terminally and galactically stupid.


24 posted on 11/19/2018 9:05:58 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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And they “rake” the forest too:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXh_HwJaXT8

And dimwits everywhere ridicule POTUS, again, for knowing what he is talking about.


28 posted on 11/19/2018 9:35:32 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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I’ve scanned most of the comments and missing from what I saw is the biggest factor I see in our area:

People who complain to their legislators about smoke from prescribed burns.

Hence, they’ve all but stopped in the face of clean air regulations and a burdensome permit process.

Thus, those complaining about the smoke in CA can cry me a river. In fact, they should shed their tears into Lake Mead; they’re gonna need it.


36 posted on 11/19/2018 9:59:46 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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“Citing research from the U.S. Forest Service, the council backs such methods as thinning stressed trees and prescribed burns to reduce wildfires but said “only a small fraction of high-risk acres are being treated.””


Aptly-cited, no forest management is complete without fire in the equation (prescribed burns). Can’t do it. Fire is part of forest ecology. To ignore that would spell disaster for the health of forests in the long-term; we’re seeing some of that now after a century of putting out fires which should otherwise have burned.


41 posted on 11/19/2018 10:50:09 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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For those who can’t access https://ijr.com/loggers-trump-forest-management-ca-fires/


45 posted on 11/19/2018 12:43:25 PM PST by GailA (Wife of RET. SCPO, GET OVER IT, DONALD TRUMP IS PRESIDENT!)
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I learned that the U.S. government owns 57% of the forests in California. I assume the fires are not among those forests. Does anyone have any info on that? I keep arguing with libs on USAToday who say the government owns 90% of the forests and is totally responsible for the mismanagement. I certainly don’t believe that for a minute because what land the gov owns would be national parks, etc., but what I am seeing is the fires are in and around where people live.


48 posted on 11/19/2018 1:48:35 PM PST by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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