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Speaker Paul Ryan: “you cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order.”
Conservative Treehouse ^ | October 30, 2018b | Sundance

Posted on 10/30/2018 5:24:47 PM PDT by detective

A few months ago, when discussing overall immigration policy, I wrote: “There is no greater disconnect from ordinary Americans -on any singular issue- than the policy positions of Democrats and Republicans in Washington DC surrounding immigration. President Donald Trump is confronting their unified interests.” The reaction from Speaker of the House Paul Ryan is directly related to this truism:

The top Republican tells WVLK radio in Kentucky, “Well you obviously cannot do that. You cannot end birthright citizenship with an executive order.”

Ryan’s comments Tuesday offered a rare challenge to the president — from his own party. […] Ryan says Republicans didn’t like when then-President Barack Obama “tried changing immigration laws via executive action. He says “obviously as conservatives we believe in the Constitution.”

Ryan is retiring but the No. 3 House Republican, Louisiana’s Rep. Steve Scalise, said on Fox that he’s glad Trump is considering options.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; postedseveraltimes; ryan; trump
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To: tomkat

That’s a trick question, he didn’t register on the bell curve.


81 posted on 10/30/2018 7:25:18 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: detective

Simply because limp wristed liberal Republicans say you can’t do something, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be done. On the contrary, it’s usually the opposite. What Trump has done is he is attempting to turn off the big magnet for illegal immigration. Even if his EO fails, and there’s no reason it should if the Constitution is followed faithfully, then he has drawn attention to it in the mind of everyday Americans.


82 posted on 10/30/2018 7:49:15 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: roadcat

Foreigners who have babies here, are not subject to our jurisdiction but that of their countries of origin, and that applies to their babies as well.
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Always has.
That’s why the children of foreign nationals can never be natural born citizens of the United States of America.

(That’s also how Ted Cruz got American citizenship even though born in Canada.)


83 posted on 10/30/2018 7:57:10 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: detective

His Chamber of Commerce masters pay him real money to say stuff like this.


84 posted on 10/30/2018 8:20:01 PM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Sweet Saint Skittles bounced dat ole white Craka head off da sidewalk causin he was real skeered.)
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To: detective

I hate hate this oxygen user.


85 posted on 10/30/2018 9:07:39 PM PDT by Digger
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To: detective

“He is wrong.”

I don’t think he is. How and when was “born in the USA” adopted as the definition of citizenship? I don’t recall that the POTUS, any POTUS, ever had the determining say in that. Changing that definition will take more than a Presidential Proclamation or Executive Order. It may take a Constitutional Amendment, Congressional Legislation, or at least a US Supreme Court Decision clarifying the question.


86 posted on 10/30/2018 9:25:40 PM PDT by VietVet
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To: mylife

You could be right. The issue of birthright citizenship is vague enough and controversial enough that Pres. Trump and Speaker Ryan think it would be useful to bring it up, have it discussed and have it resolved, be it by legislation, SCOTUS interpretation or Constitutional Amendment. An Executive Order could set the procedures in motion.


87 posted on 10/30/2018 9:33:34 PM PDT by VietVet
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To: Kozy
Trump has the votes in the SCOTUS now to make it law.

Does he? I don't trust Roberts. Not even a little bit.

88 posted on 10/31/2018 2:16:11 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: detective

Eddie Muster about as useless as tits on a hog.


89 posted on 10/31/2018 2:20:12 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: detective

There should be an “Alito-Based” Constitution Course that is required before anyone can run for any office that requires a pledge to uphold the Constitution...


90 posted on 10/31/2018 3:09:40 AM PDT by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: trebb

OOOOPS - meant to use Scalia’s name and had a bout of senescence...


91 posted on 10/31/2018 3:10:37 AM PDT by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: roadcat

“Illegal aliens are subject to the jurisdiction of other countries, and not of our country. That is why they can be deported.”

Thanks. I understand now. A baby I suppose is considered property of, or part of, the parent, so the baby is also subject to ...

What’s the argument of those, such as Paul Ryan, who say the babies are citizens?


92 posted on 10/31/2018 4:31:09 AM PDT by cymbeline
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To: VietVet

“You could be right. The issue of birthright citizenship is vague enough and controversial enough...”
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I refer you to post #54. Those are the words of the 14th Amendment’s author. Therefore, the “Original Intent” is quite clear.

Nothing vague about it.


93 posted on 10/31/2018 5:29:39 AM PDT by sevlex
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To: detective; All

This former Oscar Mayer salesman has spent his life trying sell us baloney and when he’s slip us a weenie.


94 posted on 10/31/2018 5:33:34 AM PDT by A. Morgan (Ayn Rand: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: detective; All

This former Oscar Mayer salesman has spent his life trying sell us baloney and when he’s slip us a weenie.


95 posted on 10/31/2018 5:34:09 AM PDT by A. Morgan (Ayn Rand: "You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.")
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To: tomkat

It's no coincidence that when you look at a bell curve, the left is where the idiots are.

96 posted on 10/31/2018 7:42:24 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: zeugma
Ain't that a curious coinkydink ?  ;-)
97 posted on 10/31/2018 7:54:22 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: detective

yup, had no problem with rule by pen & phone


98 posted on 10/31/2018 10:50:43 AM PDT by Pollard (If you don't understand what I typed, you haven't read the classics.)
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To: tomkat
Reworked the image a little...

99 posted on 10/31/2018 11:14:16 AM PDT by zeugma (Power without accountability is fertilizer for tyranny.)
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To: cymbeline
What’s the argument of those, such as Paul Ryan, who say the babies are citizens?

Ryan is a nincompoop, a Rino, who doesn't want to stir the pot. He parrots the Democrat line in order to make those babies into future voters. He is simply wrong but has decided which camp he is in.

100 posted on 10/31/2018 1:04:10 PM PDT by roadcat
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