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‘Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence Under Trump Administration (NY Times uses quotes)
DNC vetted then released by the NY Times ^ | 10-21-18

Posted on 10/21/2018 1:33:11 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The Trump administration is considering narrowly defining gender as a biological, immutable condition determined by genitalia at birth, the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort to roll back recognition and protections of transgender people under federal civil rights law.

A series of decisions by the Obama administration loosened the legal concept of gender in federal programs, including in education and health care, recognizing gender largely as an individual’s choice and not determined by the sex assigned at birth. The policy prompted fights over bathrooms, dormitories, single-sex programs and other arenas where gender was once seen as a simple concept. Conservatives, especially evangelical Christians, were incensed.

Now the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times.

The department argued in its memo that key government agencies needed to adopt an explicit and uniform definition of gender as determined “on a biological basis that is clear, grounded in science, objective and administrable.” The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with, according to a draft reviewed by The Times. Any dispute about one’s sex would have to be clarified using genetic testing.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dna; science; transgender
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To: myerson

To liberals, science is only settled when it conforms to their ideology.

When it conflicts with it, they ignore it.


21 posted on 10/21/2018 1:58:46 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: NoLibZone
the most drastic move yet in a governmentwide effort

Drastic ???????????
22 posted on 10/21/2018 1:59:40 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: NoLibZone

Good. No such thing/person anyway.


23 posted on 10/21/2018 2:00:22 PM PDT by madison10
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To: NoLibZone

Good. No such thing/person anyway.


24 posted on 10/21/2018 2:02:09 PM PDT by madison10
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To: NoLibZone

Biological science doesn’t tell us %#&%^ about genders. It tells us about sexes. Two, neither more not less.

How I rue the day the word “gender” jumped over the fence of the Grammar Corral and started roaming the wide prairies.


25 posted on 10/21/2018 2:05:35 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Enforcement of just laws IS Social Justice.)
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To: NoLibZone

Language has genders.

Biological science recognizes 2 sexes and rare hermaphrodites (what is now being called intersex).

Let’s stop playing the Left’s word games.


26 posted on 10/21/2018 2:10:37 PM PDT by ConjunctionJunction
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To: NoLibZone

It should be determined by chromosomes, because genitalia can be deformed in rare cases.


27 posted on 10/21/2018 2:13:44 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: NoLibZone

So when are we getting them out of the military “Mad Dog?”


28 posted on 10/21/2018 2:14:48 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: NoLibZone
"Biological Science tells us there is but two genders."

Simply state that the chromosomes define gender, period.

29 posted on 10/21/2018 2:18:59 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: NoLibZone

Wouldn’t DNA determine this?

And when they say genitals is that external appearance or internal organs?


30 posted on 10/21/2018 2:19:33 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: NoLibZone
"Now the Department of Health and Human Services is spearheading an effort to establish a legal definition of sex under Title IX, the federal civil rights law that bans gender discrimination in education programs that receive government financial assistance, according to a memo obtained by The New York Times."

First, this was solid, selective leaking by President Trump. It's built on good bones (uh, yeah), and has already thrown the Left into a tizzy.

However, second, this swims upstream against the last 5 years of stare decisis -- but stare built from mud cases built at the Federal level that SCOTUS has rarely deigned to capture.

Well, the 4 Libtards on SCOTUS will regret letting all those 9th Circus decisions stand without comment viz this gender garbage, now that Becket Fund or Thomas More or Judicial Watch will have a 'standing' platform to pursue a strong, actually the best case against DHHS and at least straighten up (*snicker*) Title IX for a generation or two.

31 posted on 10/21/2018 2:20:19 PM PDT by StAnDeliver ("Mueller personally delivered US uranium to Russia.")
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To: ctdonath2

Fluidity means it changes throughout the day, like when women hit the showers


32 posted on 10/21/2018 2:20:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

They want you to pay for their plastic surgery


33 posted on 10/21/2018 2:21:20 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: redairdog

Can’t believe it took 9 posts to get to the heart of the problem.

Amen, brother.


34 posted on 10/21/2018 2:21:31 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: NoLibZone

“The agency’s proposed definition would define sex as either male or female, unchangeable, and determined by the genitals that a person is born with...”

These pukes can’t even give a simple report without lying. Gender is determined by chromosomes, not genitalia.


35 posted on 10/21/2018 2:23:19 PM PDT by semaj (U\)
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To: NoLibZone

This is the question I always ask liberals in regard to the transgender nonsense. If there was an explosion that blew said person to bloody unrecognizable pieces. A piece was taken to a lab and DNA wa extracted what would it say? Male or Female? Usually they start sputtering and try to claim that is not important! Its what the person’s mind percieves himself to be! I then counter with - ‘John Nash’s mind once told him he was Emperor of Antarctica!’ Was he ? Did he abdicate later and go back to being a mere Princeton math professor?

Usually then they get mad at me and walk away.


36 posted on 10/21/2018 2:29:11 PM PDT by Reily
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To: NoLibZone

Close.

DNA at conception.

“Genitalia” is just one external expression of something that goes far deeper, into the nervous and endocrine systems at least, and probably others I’m insufficiently aware of to mention, down to the cellular level.

It does happen to be the most visually obvious expression, of course.


37 posted on 10/21/2018 2:50:39 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (For dark is the suede that mows like a harvest.)
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To: NoLibZone

good
it’s a medical disorder
not a desired state of being


38 posted on 10/21/2018 2:53:29 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
How I rue the day the word “gender” jumped over the fence of the Grammar Corral and started roaming the wide prairies.

I look at it this way: the use of the word gender is a defacto confirmation that they are knowingly playing word games. If it were really about biology, they'd use the word sex. They also wouldn't have to invent new gender words and then use them to bully people.

It takes a reprobate mind to invent a completely wacko alternate universe of lies, and then demand that others play along or else. I mean sheesh,

"Transgender’ Could Be Defined Out of Existence"

It was never real to begin with.

39 posted on 10/21/2018 2:56:33 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn(ed!) the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: NoLibZone

“Biological Science tells us there is but two genders.”

I hate that term, “gender.” Call it Sex, which is the term on the birth certificate. Your sex is either that of a male or female. Or, let’s get real specific and say you are either XX or XY.

To me, gender is a social engineering construct designed to confuse even the brightest liberals into believing that biology and sociology are the same thing.


40 posted on 10/21/2018 3:15:50 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (EVERYONE IS UNIQUE! JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!)
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