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Unarmed teen fatally shot by police in East Pittsburgh was Woodland Hills student
Trib Total Media ^ | 06-20-2018 | Megan Guza and Theresa Clift

Posted on 06/20/2018 3:08:38 PM PDT by RS_Rider

Police shot and killed an unarmed teen who ran away from a traffic stop Tuesday night in East Pittsburgh, authorities said.

Authorities identified the dead teen as 17-year-old Antwon Rose, a Woodland Hills High School student who district officials said was one English class shy of graduating. He had been riding in a car linked to a non-fatal shooting 13 minutes earlier on North Braddock's Kirkpatrick Avenue, according to Allegheny County police.

A 22-year-old man wounded in the North Braddock shooting was treated and released from a hospital.

The deadly shooting in East Pittsburgh happened at 8:40 after borough police pulled over a car near Grandview Avenue and Howard Street — about 1½ miles from the scene of the North Braddock shooting. Officials said the car matched the description of one involved in the earlier shooting and appeared to have gunfire damage to its back window.

As an officer arrested the 20-year-old driver, two people ran from the car, police said. The officer opened fire, hitting Rose.

Rose was taken to UPMC McKeesport, where he was pronounced dead at 9:19 p.m., officials said.

(Excerpt) Read more at triblive.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: black; gangbanger; pennsylvania; pittsburgh; police; teen; thug; unarmed
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To: JimSEA

Especially when they were, in all likelihood, participants in the previous shooting.


41 posted on 06/20/2018 4:40:01 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: MeganC

Yeah, here we go again. A bunch of FReepers getting all turgid over a cop shooting someone.


42 posted on 06/20/2018 4:43:22 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“He was only involved in non-fatal shootings, not like murder or anything.”

He was working his way up from blanks to wad cutters.


43 posted on 06/20/2018 4:44:12 PM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: RS_Rider

Bad choices have bad consequences.


44 posted on 06/20/2018 4:44:17 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: Parmy

Or one thesis on rap music for a PHD.


45 posted on 06/20/2018 4:49:25 PM PDT by certrtwngnut (4- Do something,,,,even if it's wrong.)
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To: RS_Rider

Lol, “student.”


46 posted on 06/20/2018 4:50:37 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: MeganC

Yeah, well, I’ll save my outrage for “honor” students shot while walking home from the library, not hood rats fleeing a gang shooting. If you have trouble discerning the difference, that’s sad.


47 posted on 06/20/2018 4:56:22 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: MeganC

Too tired to chase him? That’s absurd. What a low opinion of the police.


48 posted on 06/20/2018 5:09:50 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (".... and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed." Acts 13:48)
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To: JimSEA

Not true. If it were, there would be a whole lot more suspects being shot than there are.


49 posted on 06/20/2018 5:10:43 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX (".... and as many as were appointed to eternal life believed." Acts 13:48)
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To: certrtwngnut
'Or one thesis on rap music for a PHD.'

Rap that extolls the benefits of Ebonics.

50 posted on 06/20/2018 5:15:59 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: MeganC
Are you sure that this car was the suspect car? If so, why?

Officials said the car, a silver Chevrolet Cruze, matched the description of one involved in the [13 minutes] earlier shooting and appeared to have gunfire damage to its back window . . . Officers found two firearms on the floor of the car.

The police had grounds for a reasonable belief that this was the car from which shots were fired - vehicle description (although I'm not sure how detailed that was) plus indications of possible gunfire damage to the car. After the fact, we have further indications that they were correct, although ballistics tests will give a final answer. Given the information the police officer had at the time, shooting a fleeing suspect was both reasonable and legal. I don't always approve of police shootings, but I do approve of shooting a "fleeing felon" when there is a reasonable belief that the running suspect poses a danger to the community. In this case, that belief was reasonable.

51 posted on 06/20/2018 5:44:38 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: RS_Rider

.…..my only comment on the cops liability on this one is that it is too early to tell as we simply don’t have all the facts.

My general comment is “do these cops ever watch the news and see what happens when a cop shoots somebody?”

Basically, his whole life is ruined.

If I were a cop I would say to myself...…..”self, you do not pull that trigger other than to save your own life, you do not pull that trigger unless your trying to save another fellow cops life, you do not pull that trigger to shoot unless you are trying to save a citizens life and you do not pull that trigger on someone running away from you …….regardless of police policy because the consequences for your ass are too great!”

To me a suspicion that a fleeing person MAY harm someone else is not justification to shoot him.

Cops are the thin line between the citizenry and the bad guys though and deserve the benefit of the doubt every time as the decisions they make are sometimes in fractions of a second.


52 posted on 06/20/2018 5:48:01 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Cen-Tejas
If I were a cop I would say to myself...…..”self, you do not pull that trigger other than to save your own life, you do not pull that trigger unless your trying to save another fellow cops life, you do not pull that trigger to shoot unless you are trying to save a citizens life and you do not pull that trigger on someone running away from you …….regardless of police policy because the consequences for your ass are too great!” To me a suspicion that a fleeing person MAY harm someone else is not justification to shoot him.

We disagree on whether to shoot a fleeing felon when there is a reasonable belief that the suspect poses an immediate danger to others. To me, the driver is the least likely shooter in the car. If the person who shot the 22 year-old 13 minutes earlier was in the car, it was probably one of the two runners. If he still had the gun, he would have posed an immediate danger. Shooting someone running from a car linked to attempted murder will ruin the cop's life. It was still (probably) the right decision given the facts available at the time.

53 posted on 06/20/2018 5:59:26 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Pearls Before Swine

The ‘chasing police’ probably re NOT the police on the scene, so they only know that there has been a shooting. Not necessarily knowing the status of the victims second by second.


54 posted on 06/20/2018 6:01:53 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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I am sure he dindu nuffin


55 posted on 06/20/2018 6:05:04 PM PDT by dsrtsage (For Leftists, World History starts every day at breakfast)
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To: dfwgator
After ten long years they let him out of the home
Excitable boy, they all said
And he dug up her grave and built a cage with her bones

Luv me some Warren Zevon!

56 posted on 06/20/2018 6:17:37 PM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: Cen-Tejas
you do not pull that trigger on someone running away from you …….regardless of police policy because the consequences for your ass are too great!”

If I run for cover that you don't have and you don't shoot me, you are the dumbest bloke alive for the short life you have left.

57 posted on 06/20/2018 7:26:37 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Behind enemy lines)
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To: Pollster1

.……..I’m not questioning what the cop did. Remember, I said that in my first sentence. I am just saying that the cop shot a guy who was running away from him and killed him. We know that IS a fact.

Turns out it was a kid who may have been unarmed. This cop will have to live with this the rest of his life. In these APPARENT circumstances, I would not have shot the kid.

I think it is similar to chasing an outlaw through a neighborhood at a hundred miles an hour. The risks for all, including the cops, are just too great which is why most municipalities have restricted it severely.


58 posted on 06/20/2018 8:19:26 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

So, your read is that the cops life WAS in danger beyond any shadow of a doubt?

If your right about that then your RIGHT.

I don’t know yet, not enough evidence.


59 posted on 06/20/2018 8:21:51 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas
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To: Pollster1

My understanding is the car already had bullet holes in it (from the previous shooting) - in terms of the vehicle description.


60 posted on 06/21/2018 7:49:49 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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