Posted on 05/21/2018 7:35:39 AM PDT by mandaladon
Pope Francis has reportedly told a gay man that "God made you that way and loves you as you are," apparently pushing the pontiff's acceptance of homosexuality to a new level.
Francis made the comments to Juan Carlos Cruz, a Chilean victim of priestly sexual abuse who recently spent days with the pope at the Vatican to discuss his ordeal as the pontiff moves to tackle decades of coverups and ostracism of victims in the Chilean church, according to the Spanish newspaper El Pais.
Cruz was quoted as having discussed his homosexuality with Francis. "He told me: 'Juan Carlos, I don't care about you being gay. God made you that way and loves you as you are and I don't mind. The pope loves you as you are, you have to be happy with who you are.' "
A spokesman at the Vatican on Sunday declined to confirm or deny Francis' comments, stating, "We don't normally comment on the pope's private conversations."
In 2013, Francis famously said, "If someone is gay and seeks the Lord with goodwill, who am I to judge?" when asked for his views on homosexuality, signaling a sea change in Catholic views on sexual orientation.
That year he also told an interviewer, "A person once asked me, in a provocative manner, if I approved of homosexuality," adding, "I replied with another question: 'Tell me: When God looks at a gay person, does he endorse the existence of this person with love, or reject and condemn this person?' "
His reported remarks based on Cruz's account go further, however, by suggesting he believes people are created gay by God — a position likely to anger Catholic conservatives.
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This just in!!!
Millions of Roman Catholics; worldwide; have suffered from the Exploding Head Syndrome.
Film at 11...
Now, now...
Just because you've read about those 7 catholic churches in Revelation...
Nope...
Then the chips can fall where they may.
Make the beaches clean again.
The Pope knows that his priesthood and Vatican cadre has so many queers and pedophiles tht he must embrace the queerhood to maintain integrity
It ain't 'bashing' if we diss our own pope!
--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary)
Not necessarily.
We have the Roman model of 'Mary" and 'Joseph'.
They 'lived together' without having sexual relations; so; just perhaps...
Ah...
so it’s fornication we have here...
Autocorrect didn't place MARY into the sentence properly.
I tell ya....the more I continue to study Roman Catholicism, the more convoluted it gets.
Likewise...
Be careful not to bring in Roman Catholic practices that have no foundation in the Book Rome assembled so long ago.
Just as Rome has said SO many times; "You need not believe the message that an apparition brings."; still; it's a GOOD idea to hedge your bets!
... each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband.
The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband.
For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does.
Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.
Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer;
but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.
As I said, I'm not without sin. On the other hand I'm not the one casting stones either.
Uhhh.....no. Adultery is lusting after another person....married or not.
It goes to the heart of how you understand Scripture.
You think living with your boyfriend is not adultery. Scripture says otherwise.
uhhh.... commandment creep
Adultery goes beyond the 10 Commandments. It’s not just the physical act.
a couple corrections to your statement then i’ll leave you be on it. GOD does not need me to worship him, i need him, i try to be a good person but realize my righteousness is merely a false pride. God gives u and me free choice. government should be by logic and laws and minimally invasive as possible. i know i sin, the punishment of sin is death and hell, jews sacrificed lambs for death to passover, we have God incarnate as our lamb that paid my penalty so when GOD looks at me he doesn’t see my sins but the perfect sacrifice in my stead. GOD does not seem to judge and condemn us but to save us for glory, and we get to choose and i praise Him not because he demands it or to avoid hell but because he has saved me and my wife and children, and i owe him more than i could ever repay.
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