I'm just sayin'...
What type of idiot parks a car with a keyless ignition in a garage?
Are these new cars silent and vibrationless when running?
Was that car inspected?
My BIL worked at GM until his retirement 15 years ago. His comment on emissions control was “We’ve suppressed emissions so much that if you’re going to try and kill yourself by running your car in the garage, you better bring something to read. It’s gonna take a long time.”
Me, too. Darn car is so quiet. Mine starts beeping madly if I walk away with the engine running. I guess it’s lucky I don’t have a garage.
I’m surprised they don’t have a safety time out, something like, if the engine has been on for more than a few minutes without a person sitting in the driver seat to shut itself off.
Our cars are keyless. I have a carbon monoxide detector in our bedroom.
Rav-4’s, like most keyless cars, give some warning beeps if you open the door with it running - if the guy had been driving for 75 years, he must have been around 90 and mental capacity due to age is suspect....tragic that someone didn’t stand up and tell him they would handle his transportation...no reason to not park such a car in a garage...let’s face it, if you can park a car and not realize it is running when you get out, it ain’t the car’s fault...
This happened in Boca back in 2009. Two 11-year-old girls were killed (I knew them).
The car was in the garage, and the keys were on the kitchen table.
https://www.firstalertstore.com/news.asp?news_id=16
I never understood how this could have happened till I read this article this morning on FR.
I'm just sayin'...
On some rentals, if you hit the button while your foot is on the brake it will not shut down. Or if you hit the button and then shift to park it will not shut down. You have to physically verify it obeyed before you exit.
STUPID DESIGN.
Dangerous for the elderly. My father couldn’t hear much of anything even with hearing aids his last few years. I took away his keys at 90.
The other bad thing is that apparently the man in this case did not have a carbon monoxide alarm in his house.
Most people have cars with keys. The habit has been formed: take the key with you when you leave the car. Your house keys are on the same ring. Taking the key out of the ignition shuts off the car.
Millions of people have that habit. I know that. The designers of keyless cars knew that, but are fundamentally unable to allow themselves to be conscious of that thought because it’s not part of their job. Anyone who dared to speak up (that would have been me) saying “Hey, people are going to leave the car running,... etc” would have been consigned to the dustbin of history.
That’s how things are designed, with no attention paid to the inevitable consequences, whether caused directly, or only incidental. Objections are suppressed.
But that doesn’t mean the manufacturer should be sued for this. Any more than it would make sense to sue the manufacturer of baby car seats when the parent leaves the kid in the car and goes off.
Surely, the people who designed the diabolical buzzers and ignition lock for non-use of seatbelts are still alive, and perhaps can help design a system to shut the damned car off if it idles too long, and/or to emit a loud beep when the driver goes away with the damned keyless key.
I was keeping my oldest son's truck for him. A while back someone tried to break into it and messed up the lock cylinder in the door. Nice of Chevy to only give you one in the Driver's door. So he was using the security key fob to unlock his truck.
Well one day I tried to unlock the truck. No joy. I checked the battery in the remote. Still good. Couldn't pop the hood to charge the battery, so I had to charge the battery via the starter solenoid connection.
The law here mandates CO sensors
If the person is in the car, they can push a button or give a voice command and the car remains running.
If the car computer doesn't receive a response it automatically shuts off.
Keyless ignitions - A perfect example of just because something can be done doesn’t mean it should be done....Never been a fan.
That happened to us once, right after we got our new Jeep with a fob. We were looking for an assigned parking spot in a garage, so we were a bit distracted to begin with. Then, we shut off the car-we THOUGHT, locked it and left it. When I went back, there were a couple of maintenance men by the car and one said “There she is!” when I walked up. I asked if I wasn’t supposed to park my car in that spot and the guy says, “NO! Yous POSTA shut it off!” LOL! I had no idea it was running, it was so quiet. I felt like an idiot.
I’m reminded of this short video about a guy trying to do something nice for his Wife and a keyless entry vehicle.
https://youtu.be/fHWSdyekqts
Warning: Adult language rant, but really funny!
I don’t get it. I thought one didn’t need the key to START the car, but still had to turn and remove the key to STOP.
Our newest car is like that. I don’t get how one could have the key and the car is still running.
What is so hard about installing a $30 CO detector in the house? Takes about 5 minutes. People like keyless ignition because you don’t have to dig the fob out of your purse or pocket.