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Judge rules taverns can ban Trump supporters (No law says you can't discriminate based on politics)
American Thinker ^ | 04/26/2018 | Rick Moran

Posted on 04/26/2018 8:11:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

A Manhattan judge has ruled that a bar that ordered patron who was wearing a "Make America Great Again" hat to leave had a right to do so under the New York constitution.

The judge rejected Greg Piatek's argument that he wore his MAGA hat to pay "spiritual tribute" to 9/11 victims and was thus discriminated against for his religious beliefs. Instead, the judge cited the state constitution which does not bar discrimination based on politics.

Washington Times:

“The purpose of the hat is that he wore it because he was visiting the 9/11 Memorial,” Piatek attorney Paul Liggierisaid in court Wednesday, according to the New York Post. “He was paying spiritual tribute to the victims of 9/11. The Make American Great Again hat was part of his spiritual belief.

“Rather than remove his hat, instead he held true to his spiritual belief and was forced from the bar,” Mr. Liggieri said.

A skeptical Judge Cohen wanted to know about the MAGA religion, the Post reported.

“How many members are in this spiritual program that your client is engaged in?” the judge asked.

“Your honor, we don’t allege the amount of individuals,” Mr. Liggieri replied.
“So, it’s a creed of one?” Judge Cohen asked.

“Yes, your honor,” the lawyer replied.

Judge Cohen tossed the case.

“Plaintiff does not state any faith-based principle to which the hat relates,” Judge Cohen said, calling the incident a “petty” snub.

“The claim that plaintiff was not served and eventually escorted out of the bar because of his perceived support for President Trump is not outrageous conduct,” the judge ruled.

Mr. Liggieri said his client is considering whether to file an appeal.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 1moretime; discrimination; lawsuit; maga; magaban; manhatten; politics; ruling; tds; trumpsupportersban
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To: SeekAndFind

I could see the same judge ruling the opposite if...

Say a gay man went to a bar wearing an “I’m with her” shirt, or better yet, a “Gay Pride” shirt.

The bartender says, “Get out, we don’t want your kind here!”

The Gay man says, “Why, because I’m gay?”

The bartender replies, “No, because you’re a Leftist!”

The Gay man sues.

What do you think the judge would say, and how will the gay man’s lawyer approach the lawsuit? That his client is a Leftist, or his client is gay?


41 posted on 04/26/2018 8:44:40 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (If white privilege is real, why do we have millions of poor white people?)
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To: SeekAndFind

so if you ask “did you support Hillary?” and they say yes you can kick them out.


42 posted on 04/26/2018 8:45:00 AM PDT by 20yearvet (they yell for more tests as long as its your money)
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To: manc
You are dreaming if you think a Christian baker can deny service.

Depends on what they deny it for and why. If they deny service to a Nazi on the grounds that they won't serve Nazis then the Nazi in question doesn't have a legal leg to stand on, seeing as political beliefs are not a protected class. If they deny service to homosexuals then as recent government decisions have shown that's another kettle of fish entirely.

43 posted on 04/26/2018 8:45:53 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
So a conservatives only bar is legal?

Needs a hyphen and some quotation marks to get the meaning across. As in: "Last night I had a drink at a "conservatives-only" bar."

Otherwise confusing. Like saying a conservative can protest an action and prevent it, but only if the prevention (or "bar") is "legal".

We are losing the English language slowly but surely.

44 posted on 04/26/2018 8:46:56 AM PDT by 4Runner
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To: DoodleDawg

If you honestly think that a Christian baker could get away with that crap then you are naive at best.

We all now damn well that this judge wold be hypocritical if the roles were reversed so lets cut the crap


45 posted on 04/26/2018 8:48:50 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: manc

Know.


46 posted on 04/26/2018 8:49:13 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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To: TallahasseeConservative
"Meanwhile Bakers and Florists have no such right to refuse service. The tyranny of the judiciary strikes again."

Which shows you that much of the "discrimination" law is just a political spoils system to grant special legal privileges to favored classes and political allies.

48 posted on 04/26/2018 8:52:16 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Sans-Culotte

Exactly!


49 posted on 04/26/2018 8:52:30 AM PDT by CodeToad (The Democrats haven't been this pissed off since the Republicans took their slaves away.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Can you elaborate?
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See post 24.


50 posted on 04/26/2018 8:53:58 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: vette6387

Wonder what would happen if large groups of MAGA folks started showing up at the Tavern for drinks.


51 posted on 04/26/2018 9:00:38 AM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: House Atreides

RE: Political beliefs are not a protected class in Oregon. Sexual orientation is.

Why is that? Political Beliefs are supposed to be tied to the First Amendment. Can Oregon override the US Constitution?


52 posted on 04/26/2018 9:01:43 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: Max Tactical

It’s that simple.


53 posted on 04/26/2018 9:02:43 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: Max Tactical

RE: Political affiliation has never been a protected class under any civil rights legislation, state or fed.

Wearing a MAGA hat does not necessarily imply that you are a part of a Political Party. It SHOULD be protected expression under the First Amendment.


54 posted on 04/26/2018 9:03:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: CygnusXI

“So a conservatives only bar is legal?
Sweet!”

Yes, you are free to open up a bar in the West Village in Manhattan and put a sign on the door that says “No Democrats, No Moderates, No Liberals, No Socialists allowed. Only Conservatives may Enter.”


55 posted on 04/26/2018 9:06:12 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: SeekAndFind

“. It SHOULD be protected expression under the First Amendment.”

I don’t think the bar in question is mentioned in the text of First Amendment.


56 posted on 04/26/2018 9:07:59 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
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To: SeekAndFind

If someone doesn’t want to serve me, and I don’t really care why -— I want to leave ASAP. I have worked in food service long enough in college to know that those are the kind of Democrats/liberals that spit in your food or worse if you insist on staying. OH, YES THEY WILL!!! Be thankful for the warning and find a respectable place to dine -— leave the lowlifes to gloat among themselves while you enjoy unadulterated food.


57 posted on 04/26/2018 9:21:06 AM PDT by LTC.Ret
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To: SeekAndFind

A caller to the Chris Plante show on WMAL radio said that the judge has now authorized discrimination based upon politics in this case, one can now deny renting or selling property to folks based upon their politics “I saw a Bernie sticker on their car” for example. Or “Oh, you supported Hillary, I won’t bake your wedding cake”.


58 posted on 04/26/2018 9:21:47 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: SeekAndFind

RE: Political beliefs are not a protected class in Oregon. Sexual orientation is.

Why is that? Political Beliefs are supposed to be tied to the First Amendment. Can Oregon override the US Constitution?
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Two words: PRIVATE PROPERTY


59 posted on 04/26/2018 9:23:12 AM PDT by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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To: SeekAndFind

Someone forgot to tell the Boy Scouts


60 posted on 04/26/2018 9:23:19 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Nearly all men can stand adversity...to test a man's character, give him power." A. Lincoln)
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