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Trump considering pardon for boxing legend Jack Johnson after call from Sylvester Stallone
The Hill ^ | 04/21/18 03:33 PM EDT | BY BRETT SAMUELS -

Posted on 04/21/2018 2:11:32 PM PDT by ethom

Edited on 04/21/2018 3:34:58 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

President Trump said Saturday he

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: boxing; jackjohnson; stallone
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To: Bonemaker
No it was NOT "a horseshit law"!

They law was about SEX TRAFFICKING/PROSTITUTION! Do yourself a favor and look up THE MANN ACT !

21 posted on 04/21/2018 2:44:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Bonemaker
It was a horseshit law...just like prohibtion was.

These days you hear all sorts of stuff about "sex trafficking" both here and overseas.To whatever degree this type of thing happens *here*...or might happen were it not for legislation outlawing it...it's certainly something that we'd want to prevent.

Might the guy have been unfairly convicted...that is "not guilty as charged"? Yes,it's my understanding that black defendants haven't always gotten true justice in this country.But,OTOH,blacks...just like whites...*do* commit crimes and always have.

So,as I said before,his *actual* guilt or innocence is all that matters.

22 posted on 04/21/2018 2:44:59 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: Sacajaweau

While he’s at it, he should posthumously forgive Joe Louis’s tax debt imposed by the filthy government


23 posted on 04/21/2018 2:46:18 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Sacajaweau; SoCal Pubbie
He was convicted of a crime that didn’t even exist at the time of the event.

Proof,please!

24 posted on 04/21/2018 2:47:07 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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To: fella

Maybe not, but his family cares, and that is reason enough to do it!


25 posted on 04/21/2018 2:48:05 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: Larry Lucido
"Does this mean he’ll be able to vote?" Yes, but probably not for Trump. dem5
26 posted on 04/21/2018 2:50:21 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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I don't see why not!?

This pardon could maybe give TRUMP another 1% to 2% of the Black Vote so why not?

As TRUMP says What do you have to lose?

27 posted on 04/21/2018 2:51:39 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: KavMan

Stallone is advising the president, I love it!


28 posted on 04/21/2018 2:52:47 PM PDT by ethom
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To: Larry Lucido

“Does this mean he’ll be able to vote?”

Yes. But if he is buried in Chicago he will have to vote in alphabetical order, just like all the other dead electors.


29 posted on 04/21/2018 2:54:03 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Gay State Conservative

Rig a jury and anyone would be guilty.

Pardon the guy.


30 posted on 04/21/2018 2:55:33 PM PDT by arrogantsob (See "Chaos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Ditto. The family will be grateful and those screaming that Trump is a racist will be one-upped. A great photo opportunity with the family.


31 posted on 04/21/2018 2:56:00 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why the hell isn't Hillary Rodham Clinton in prison yet?)
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To: KavMan
This pardon could maybe give TRUMP another 1% to 2% of the Black Vote so why not?

As TRUMP says What do you have to lose?

It is a GOOD political move... I would say you're "right as rain."

32 posted on 04/21/2018 2:57:37 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Gay State Conservative

Yes, having sex with a woman in two states is worthy of a felony.


33 posted on 04/21/2018 2:58:26 PM PDT by Rebelbase ( Zoo + Prison + Circus = Public Shool)
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Pardon Jack Johnson & Dinesh D'Souza
34 posted on 04/21/2018 2:58:27 PM PDT by KavMan
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To: Gay State Conservative

The source of that is Ken Burns documentary Unforgivable Blackness. But here’s one more item.

“And then he was arrested, twice, for violating a law that made it illegal transport a white woman across state lines for any “immoral purposes” — including, under the racist strictures of Jim Crow, an interracial relationship.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/02/05/jack-johnson-worlds-first-black-boxing-champion-was-jailed-under-jim-crow-will-he-get-a-posthumous-pardon/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0d25d76a9da8


35 posted on 04/21/2018 2:58:31 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: nopardons

Actually, if two consenting adults crossed state lines to have sex , it was a violation of the Mann Act. In other words, it was a horseshit law .


36 posted on 04/21/2018 2:59:37 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Maxine Waters for House Minority Leader!!)
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To: ethom
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37 posted on 04/21/2018 2:59:45 PM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: ethom

Jamie Brockett and Ledbelly fans will remember that Jack Johnson avoided a possible early death because of racism...

“Jack Johnson want to get on board,
Captain says, “I ain’t haulin’ no coal.”
Fare thee, Titanic, fare thee well.”

After the sinking, Johnson realizes the irony of the situation. The Captain’s racism saved the boxer’s life:

“When he heard about that mighty shock,
Might o’ seen the man doin’ the Eagle Rock.
Fare thee, Titanic, fare thee well.”


38 posted on 04/21/2018 3:01:59 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: nopardons; Bonemaker
Your post #21.

Yes, the act which was the work of James Robert Mann (R.Ill) was passed in 1910. Indeed it was to stop or slow what was called "white slavery" by some. To try to keep ugly sex trafficking within a state, where they could keep tabs on it. Charlie Chaplin was charged, but got away with it. Privately an unpleasant individual in my opinion. I understood after reading a novel by Charles Portis, stolen vehicles take on a far serious consequence. This by simply being driven across state lines.

39 posted on 04/21/2018 3:02:41 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: arrogantsob
Rig a jury and anyone would be guilty.

Is there convincing evidence that the jury was "rigged"...or are we just assuming here.Has there ever been a black defendant convicted by a white jury that was,in fact,guilty as charged?

To Kill A Mockingbird is my favorite film of all time.Tom Robinson was,in fact,the victim of an overzealous (if not racist) prosecutor and a filthy white cracker drunk father.IMO there's not enough evidence to prove that the jurors were racist...but it's been about 55 years since I read the book so I could be wrong there (I watch the film regularly...most recently about 6 months ago).

I don't know how much press this case got at the time of the trial but I'd be interested in seeing any that does exist...and court appeals as well.Presumably DJT will have trusted legal advisers look into that very thing.

40 posted on 04/21/2018 3:06:44 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (You Say "White Privilege"...I Say "Protestant Work Ethic")
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