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Self-driving vehicles.... dangerous?
freerepublic.com ^ | 03/20/2018 | self

Posted on 03/20/2018 6:32:48 AM PDT by a little elbow grease

Now that an Arizona woman was killed after being struck by a self-driving Uber vehicle many questions come to mind not that they shouldn’t.

We live in Pittsburgh, lots of hills, and lots of snow and ice.

There are times when we have difficulty controlling a car in those conditions (our weather forecast is for 6 inches of snow later today and tonight).

A couple months ago my wife, after driving to and from work in terrible road conditions, wondered how a self-driving car would handle it. What do you think of these self-driving cars navigating snow and ice?


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To: a little elbow grease

Yes. The vehicle software can only decide what it’s sensors detect. As a sensor systems engineer, the sensors are not absolute in their ability to detect everything around the vehicle and determine what’s what.


101 posted on 03/20/2018 8:38:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!.)
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To: All

I can’t believe how many of you people are writing “breaks” instead of “brakes.”

Rant over...


102 posted on 03/20/2018 8:48:00 AM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: Alberta's Child

They are designing cars for the “ultimate solution” of completely atomizing the population and putting them under totalitarian rule. That is their LAST needed “control”-—of ALL transportation. THEY will dictate where you can go and when you can go anywhere. (All “self” driving cars will be able to be controlled by the govt. elites....ALL.) They can kill you or prevent you from going places like they did Michael Hastings. You will be marked like we are today with “smart” phones and all new cars now-—the NWO is real, folks!!!

The psychopaths are using the Hegelian Dialectic to force us into total servitude and slavery, and we “beg” for the “freedom” to have IPhones for our children, so their brains are artificially “mapped” by psychopaths and pedophiles and so our children lose agency as the Marxists desire—just programmed “bots” who can’t “think critically” EVER.

“Smart” technology destroys autonomy and mental cognition in people to “not have to think about important things—not make those little decisions—not memorize and habituate things will destroy neurons in the brain. They “learn” to use machines in simplistic ways with inanimate objects-—never other “humans” in Reality. They lose the ability to even interact with other humans—the most complex, creative computer out there—is being destroyed DELIBERATELY for the elite’s Technocracy of Slaves. (Read Huxley’s Ultimate Solution speech to Berkeley of 1962—the evil pedophile “plan” known by then-—to make us into their happy controlled “bots”.)

Oh, but we are SO happy staring at their cr@p, the TV, etc. and letting them control and addict our brains with artificial emotions—their bread and circuses, as we ignore the most important human relationships and true politics (reality) and control. True meaning in our lives is destroyed and we lose the ability to control and determine our own lives.

We allow them to control and shape our children (destroy their brains) in their public school indoctrination centers since the communist John Dewey destroyed our Classical Christian curricula for “socialization” into slavery/stupidity system, to destroy natural instincts, esp. in masculine, alpha males who will be drugged and emasculated and embed dependency only. No Davy Crocketts possible with their system of mass indoctrination and conformity using peer pressure, conditioning. revisionism (lies) of history, and hyper-sexualized TV images to destroy virtue formation which is needed to be free (have agency).

Just like the IPhone atrophies the brain and is destroying the ability of people to navigate and remember phone numbers, etc., “smart” cars will do the same. The IPhone is doing all the work of the brain—atrophing the brain—LITERALLY—and will prevent the brain of children from integrating properly and building the neuron network, naturally. How many children will know how to fix a car that can’t run? NONE. All men knew how to do that 100 years ago. They weren’t controlled and dependent on others.

All “smart” technology is to put us into a totalitarian, dependent state of total control by elite—like in the cities of China where they have complete slavery. The word “smart” is Orwellian and a ‘laugh” for the psychopaths as they literally destroy your children. Smart phones make them dumb. Children need to work their brains and memorize, etc., like they used to in the one-room school houses where common sense was created-—not killed like in today’s “artificial” AI worlds. Children have to DO things in nature—with ALL five senses and have FREE PLAY and FREE ASSOCIATION with REAL people, trees, dirt, rocks, etc., to map their brains NATURALLY-—as God designed which creates agency (thinking for self) and creativity.

Memory and creativity will be destroyed if using IPhone, since the phone does all the work for your brain. Same with watching TV-—the programming literally destroys areas of the brain—atrophies it—and remaps it with artificial (irrational) emotional patterns. It isolates and removes people from Reality (and remaps the brain to be “happy” with addiction/programming systems which do all the work of the mind. It especially harms children who are just starting to map their brains and learn to use it properly (naturally).

Children already are having their minds (agency) destroyed by the Pavlovian/Skinner public school system (and most private skools). They destroyed explicit phonics, rhetoric, mathematics, Great Books, Bible—the curricula which actually created minds that had agency and could be coherent and understand this cabal and their insidious pederastic plans (Sex Ed) for little children which objectifies all people—reduces them to cattle to be herded and culled.

We are being controlled-—Mind Controlled—(conditioned) and massively since Eddie Bernays (Freud’s Nephew) who was used by the elites psychopaths to poison us (and make us LOVE the poisoning). (Read his book “Propaganda” and watch Century of Self.)

We are remapping brains of children so they are incapable of agency-they will just be “bots’ repeating whatever has been programmed into them and they are given lies and hyper-sexualized to destroy virtue formation. The mapping of the brain creates “cognitive dissonance” when exposed to the Truth (God) or any facts, etc. Typical “snowflakes” who believe sodomy is a virtue, boys can be girls and Evil is Good—complete atomized, sterile people for the psychopath’s depopulation plans (killing billions).

The automobile was the worst invention for the monopolists in our history when Ford made cars affordable to the masses. It is what help created the most free and independent, prosperous nation on earth even more than the horse and wagon. It created a STRONG MIDDLE CLASS. People who could escape the control and monopolies of the psychopathic elites who for 200 years has tried to get total control of the World, esp. America (and who set up the System in 1913 so they could eventually get total control like today—(the Federal Bank/Marxist Income Tax/Public skools) and get us into all their wars, depressions, so they can steal the wealth, minerals, lands, banks and eventually destroy the middle class.

With their “smart” grid and “smart” cars and “phones”, etc., they are destroying the worldview in human beings which created the mindset of Western Civilization (Christian worldview) at its apotheosis. They will make the Christian worldview impossible in children with their programming because it is the destruction of the natural integration of the brain.

Sorry this is so long, but had some time this morning......LOL


103 posted on 03/20/2018 8:48:51 AM PDT by savagesusie (When Law ceases to be Just, it ceases to be Law. (Thomas A./Founders/John Marshall)/Nuremberg)
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To: Texas Fossil

My parents used to take as many secondary highways as they could while “snowbirding” in their motorhome so they could see the real country. Every time the TomTom was turned on, it would do its darndest to get them onto the nearest interstate, even if going from one small town to another neither of which was on said interstate.


104 posted on 03/20/2018 8:51:26 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: cincinnati65
Driverless cars are just a way for the government to get their hands on more data about your travels. Then, they can combine it with the existing tech to shut down vehicles remotely and control your every movement.

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Ouch......... you telling me they'll know when I sneak out to get a pizza around midnight?

105 posted on 03/20/2018 8:53:30 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (A)
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To: Sam_Damon
There’s only one type of self-driving car that works. It uses flanged wheels and steel rails.

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That's great!

106 posted on 03/20/2018 8:54:34 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (A)
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To: Texas Fossil

I live in a rural area, I agree the data bases on some of these nav systems are weak. It is a tourist area and I have talked to numerous people visiting who blindly follow their system .

I recall one person who ended up in the middle of a wilderness area.

I tell them to talk to a local, the shortest way may not be the best. A longer decent road far outweighs a shorter crappie road.


107 posted on 03/20/2018 8:55:35 AM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: dangus

That question is waaaay too deep for me.


108 posted on 03/20/2018 8:55:41 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (A)
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To: phormer phrog phlyer

I’ve learned to turn off all trip navigation advice anywhere near DFW Airport, you will never get to any destination if you use it.

Also in current downtown Dallas, they had foreign contractors upgrading the roads which state took over from bankruptcy and for toll reasons they redirect all the traffic in loonie direction.

I try to avoid Dallas as a consequence of this current nuttiness.


109 posted on 03/20/2018 9:00:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Nifster
Tapping your breaks on black ice is not a good idea IF the road is iced no one can stop until they run into something

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Hopefully that thing you would run into would be ....... either of these two things.


110 posted on 03/20/2018 9:01:14 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (A)
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To: Nifster
No one drives on ice

Yeah, that's why I have all 4 wheels carrying studded tires mounted on my vehicles in the winter.

Black ice, hard packed snow, ice storms. Some folks have to travel in these conditions regularly.

Perhaps I missed your sarc tag...

111 posted on 03/20/2018 9:03:52 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: bmwcyle
How do you face someone in court if you hit or are hit by one?

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Good question. I guess the car has to get on the witness stand.

112 posted on 03/20/2018 9:04:02 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (A)
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To: outofsalt
Self-driving vehicles.... dangerous? ------ Ban Pedestrians!

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LOL ..... how about those pesky, suicidal deer and raccoons?

113 posted on 03/20/2018 9:06:08 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (A)
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To: a little elbow grease

I can hear the beeping or will it talk with the radio?


114 posted on 03/20/2018 9:06:20 AM PDT by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: backwoods-engineer; All
An incredibly naive, if not completely ignorant point of view.

Moreover, cars are freedom. No way in HELL am I going to give over control of my vehicle to some government-controlled computer. You blue-staters can keep your self-driving cars.

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BRAVO

115 posted on 03/20/2018 9:07:44 AM PDT by a little elbow grease (A)
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To: Nifster

no one said anything about government


116 posted on 03/20/2018 9:18:55 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: Fresh Wind

no one said anything about government.


117 posted on 03/20/2018 9:19:09 AM PDT by JohnBrowdie
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To: a little elbow grease

“Hypothetical scenario: I drive to work and while there it snows - what are my options now? Drive home? Stay at work? Go to local hotel? Seriously.”

How about you switch the car over to “manual mode” and see if you have enough skill to get home. But you raise an interesting point. If, as some have postulated, liability insurance will go away and the vehicles will be insured under the manufacturer’s product liability insurance, the car will be undoubtedly “programmed” not to take chances, since the “deep pockets” in any accident will be the manufacturer. Kinda like what the Libs want to do with guns.


118 posted on 03/20/2018 9:23:09 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: a little elbow grease

In an oven mitt?


119 posted on 03/20/2018 9:25:38 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: JohnBrowdie

Step it up and ban all cars—everyone rides public transportation!?!? Isn’t that a goal?


120 posted on 03/20/2018 9:30:06 AM PDT by Ozark Tom
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