Posted on 03/13/2018 5:16:01 PM PDT by Pinkbell
A thread to discuss the results.
I feel like Lamb has a lot of momentum, has run as a moderate, and has run a better campaign. I'll predict he'll win tonight (although I'd like to see Saccone win).
NYT does a good job with election results.
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I don't think there is 3202 left. I think it is more like 2700.
I foresee a change of leadership at the RNC leading up to the midterms. We
60% is realistic. But I don’t think its going to be enough.
The Democrats scored a huge win in Trump country. And there are lots of districts like that around the country.
If they can find moderate candidates, they have a good shot at taking the House.
And endangered Red state Democratic Senators can figure how to keep their seats.
The GOP is complacent and overconfident. The election result is a wake-up call.
This should have been an easy win what with a boombing economy and so forth.
The GOP is complacent and overconfident. The election result is a wake-up call.
This should have been an easy win what with a boombing economy and so forth.
This is not acceptable. POTUS needs to light a rocket under the RNC and the Chamber of Commerce type donors.
Excluding the military (and provisional) votes, if there are 3,204 outstanding votes in the 3 non Alleghany counties, those percentages will not be enough. To make up the 579 difference you need to make up 579/3204 = 18.07%. This translates to 59.04%. (You may need to bump this up slightly for the Libertarian vote.)
The chair and co-chair are staunch Trump allies. They aren’t going anywhere. They’ll blame Saccone or Miller and leave it at that.
They are not delivering. As we saw today with Tillerson, POTUS is results oriented.
And the thing is they only have to sound moderate when they are candidates!
Then they can come to DC and vote for left wing progressivism
Kinda like democrat taqqiya
Yup.
Apparently, they wanted to lose - and did,
Mid-terms are tough. The party in power usually ends up losing seats.
Only question is how many.
Trump shouldn’t be all I’m for the Repukes. He should be willing to support Trump Democrats. Joe Manchin isn’t going to impeach. By just being partisan he weakens his sway in my opinion. Democrats make it hard but he should consider supporting populist Dems in their primaries
Shhhhh!! You must always be Pollyanna or else someone will tell you to go to DU!
;)
Let’s face reality.
Does what happened in PA-18 constitute a local result or is it a portent of a national trend.
The old saw is all elections are local. Until they aren’t.
We have until November to find out which is the case.
Big question here, was the map drawn by the court used in this election? If so, then there were some Dem areas drawn into 18 I think.
Reality is that special elections are usually a toss up. Does not matter what the party or president did in a general on a presidential year. Totally different ball game with massive voter fatique And there was a scandal that brought this on. People doing any math and including the pickup on Algny absentee votes, are not running a balanced ratio. Still, these types of races are always toss ups. The GOP candidate was a bad candidate and still made up that much of a difference in the final week? That’s huge. As far back as he was, he should have been out early on.
Not the pattern Dems were counting on when considering a national bellweather stand.
GOP barely jumped into this race until the last minute. And there will likely be a recount. Expect votes to possibly be tossed.
Worked some races like this before. Watching folks take too much out of it has been a laugh.
Worked some races like this. They never seem to work as a meter on the midterm.
And people claiming the gop is complacent have no idea what they are talking about. The party is in panic mode about midterms. If they are smart, they won’t look at this race as a meter. Again, the dude was a bad candidate who said some really dumb stuff down a very bad campaign stretch.
Remember, just last week the media claimed two races in Texas were going to be a meter for the midterms. The Texas Land Commissioner won a 4 way primary outright that included the very popular former land commissioner. The Ag Commissioner was a crowded primary with solid ease. Both were pro Trump and supported by Trump. One was Bush.
Suddenly, after they cruised the primary and Texas had a sizeable difference in Republican voters over Dem voters, it was not a meter on the midterms. Same media that ran an all out blitz for the Dem in Penn 18.
In Summation of points, folks, calm down and quit seeing aliens in the trees. Quit saying crazy things like Trump should support certain dems in primaries. (That is a dead give away, by the way)
And also, people who claim that the guy they supported just two elections ago as “anti establishment” and now claim they are “establishment” don’t really come off even keeled.
Not saying any one in particular, just a trend you see on this website from time to time. Reminds me of that movie survivors. “professional (dung) stirrers.”
It is very much a local result. There was a frickin sex scandal that led to the mid term. and a dud candidate who could not raise money. And if the dem wins, which no one will not until tomorrow and after a likely recount, it still does not help them because the gop candidate made up all that space in about a week.
The tax cuts are offering huge results for the gop. And the gop will talk about it now on the way to the second half of summer. There are actually republicans who have people thanking them for the vote when they see them in public.
They will very likely tout that in the campaign. It scares the dems big time. They tried every thing they could to stop that bill for a reason.
Bummer.
Got sick of Stierwalt when he was on Me-again’s show and they did their Trump bashing segments. Now he’s on Shannon Bream pretty regularly so I don’t watch her and her speedy talking mouth either.
Yes that is including the dem Alleghaney CO absentee ballots. They meant the 2 districts would have put Saccone ahead a little bit but we never saw him take that lead because Alleghaney Co started counting their absentee ballots before the last two R prescincts came in.
The democrats outspent the Republicans 5-1. Come now. Why if I am running the GOP would I spend money on a lackluster candidate in a SPECIAL election in a district that likely won’t exist? And if it does, then there will be a do-over in 8 short months.
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