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MSNBC Host: Handgun Bullets Are Ineffective In Stopping School Shooters Because They're Too Slow
Townhall.com ^ | February 26, 2018 | Matt Vespa,

Posted on 02/26/2018 1:34:23 PM PST by Kaslin

Talk about a facepalm moment. Is it the media’s stupidity or stacking sandbags because they know this National Rifle Association initiative could gain traction? You decide. The NRA wants more armed guards in schools. Teachers should be allowed to carry as well. After the tragic Sandy Hook shooting, the school board voted to approve this proposal. This is not an alien concept. A lot of schools have resource officers; Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the site of the most recent school shooting on February 14, had such officers. They failed to engage the shooter, Nikolas Cruz. Scores of teachers in Ohio are signing up for gun training courses to obtain their concealed carry permits. So, since the NRA is akin to ISIS in the minds of the liberal media, what do you do? Well, if you’re MSNBC, apparently it’s to make the argument that handguns aren’t effective in stopping shooters, who are armed with rifles, because the bullets from pistols are too slow.  I will repeat that: handgun ammunition travels so slow that its ineffective at stopping someone armed with a rifle (via Daily Caller):

MSNBC anchors are claiming that teachers armed with handguns would be unable to stop a school shooter because rifles shoot “three times faster.”

Anchor Lawrence O’Donnell said on his show Thursday night that “a bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun…and yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter.”

Lawrence: A bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun.

And yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter https://t.co/heze69kRDU— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 23, 2018

Yeah, there is a difference, but we’re talking tenths of a second here. Also, veteran J.R. Salzman seemed confused with this narrative: didn’t two Capitol Police officers stop a shooter from assassinating scores of Republicans in Alexandria as they were practicing for the annual congressional baseball game? Uh, yeah—they did. They confronted the shooter, they engaged him; he turned out to be a Bernie Sanders supporter, and they neutralized the threat. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA) was almost killed in the attack. 

Where did this BS narrative come from that you can’t stop a rifle with a handgun? When has that ever been a thing? Are people’s memories really so short they don’t remember Capital Police stopping a Bernie bro with an SKS shooting at congressman on a baseball field?— J.R. Salzman (@jrsalzman) February 25, 2018

This is the reason why the media will always lose the Second Amendment fight. Millions of Americans own firearms. They know the caliber, they know its capabilities, and they also know what the proper terminology is (i.e. automatic vs. semiautomatic). I’m not talking super technical gunsmith jargon, just basic details about the gun. They know what they have and the media’s pervasive failure to learn what they’re talking about will never allow them to win over Americans they need to change the nature of gun politics. That’s because the alternative floated by the Left is straight up gun confiscation, evisceration of the Second Amendment, and the stripping of American civil rights. That’s also another reason why they’ll never win. We know their game. It’s this type of trash peddled by MSNBC that makes for great entertainment. 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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To: Kaslin

This is what happens when people who have never actually fired a gun start calling for gun control.


101 posted on 02/26/2018 2:39:08 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: Kaslin

Idiot! In close quarter combat the person with a hand gun has distinct advantages in maneuvering and target acquisition over someone with a long gun. As for the speed of the bullet, a slower moving, higher caliber slug can deliver more felt impact to the target and still be totally lethal. Yet another media tool that has no idea what he’s flatulating his gums about.


102 posted on 02/26/2018 2:39:30 PM PST by Desron13 (E)
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To: All

What is astounding to me is not that MSNBC (or CNN, or any ‘news’ outlet talking head, including Fox) would say such a thing.....

...But that anyone out here in the real world would expect any of these talking heads to actually know what the hell they are talking about on any given subject.


103 posted on 02/26/2018 2:39:41 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Kaslin

MSNBC Host: Handgun Bullets Are Ineffective In Stopping School Shooters Because They’re Too Slow

Me: I dare you to try and outrun one!


104 posted on 02/26/2018 2:44:31 PM PST by Ellendra (Those who kill without reason cannot be reasoned with.)
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To: sparklite2

Heh, good one.


105 posted on 02/26/2018 2:44:54 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Kaslin

Anytime I want a good belly laugh, I watch some election night videos of these geniuses when they realize Trump won. They’re such idiots they don’t even blush when saying things like this.


106 posted on 02/26/2018 2:48:41 PM PST by DocRock (And now is the time to fight! Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Or too many spaghetti westerns.

Watch towards the end...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSzHBxfgfqo


107 posted on 02/26/2018 2:50:52 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: Kaslin

They should give all cops smart guns, so they can out-shoot criminals armed with dumdums. That makes as much sense as worrying that 900 fps is too slow.


108 posted on 02/26/2018 2:56:18 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Brilliant

Excellent point.


109 posted on 02/26/2018 2:56:49 PM PST by Dahoser (Separation of church and state? No, we need separation of media and state.)
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To: Kaslin

Hollywood constantly makes movies where people are dodging bullets from handguns left and right. But rifle fire is never dodged, it always hits it’s target, usually sniper fire from 2 miles away.
But bullets from those handguns, especially in a small room where the target is just a few feet away, seem to be pretty easy to bob and weave away from.

According to Hollywood.

Where this dumbass undoubtedly gets most of his information.


110 posted on 02/26/2018 3:01:29 PM PST by Newtoidaho (Proud member of Trump's army of online trolls)
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To: Kaslin
Hmm my critical duty 9mm rounds move at 1140 fps...not the fastest but 2 center of mass will put a hurting on him...still standing? alter aim up and complete the Mozambique!
111 posted on 02/26/2018 3:07:16 PM PST by Bottom_Gun (Crush depth dummy - proud NRA member & Certified Instructor)
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To: OttawaFreeper

That has to be it. These people are just stupid.


112 posted on 02/26/2018 3:08:55 PM PST by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory.)
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To: Kaslin

Maybe Lawrence would like to show us how he can outrun a handgun bullet on live TV.


113 posted on 02/26/2018 3:13:47 PM PST by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: Kaslin

LOL! No. Pistol or revolver bullets are faster inside a building, because a pistol can be put on target faster than a rifle and doesn’t inhibit mobility as much (fire and maneuver).

Too many people have some sort of weird rifle mania. Rifles are what they are. They’re good for longer distances outdoors. In our population of over 320 million people, rifles have not been used in many murders as compared to handguns. The big anti-Second-Amendment putsch is a police state thing. The sooner y’all realize that and the real lobbies behind it, the more effective you’ll be at politically countering it.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-4.xls

Expanded Homicide Data Table 4
Murder Victims
by Weapon, 2012–2016

2016

Handguns 7,105

Rifles 374


114 posted on 02/26/2018 3:14:07 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: Vaquero

What gets giggling me is superman ducking when the man throws the gun!


115 posted on 02/26/2018 3:14:14 PM PST by mdmathis6 (Men and Devils can't out-"alinsksy" God! He knows where "all the bodies are buried!")
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To: WayneS
Lawrence O’Donnell is a moron.

Lawrence O'Donnell doesn't have the intelligence to be a moron.

116 posted on 02/26/2018 3:17:43 PM PST by dearolddad
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To: JimRed

Big, slow .45 rounds from a Chicago Typewriter, even if he’s wearing body armor will knock him on his “”” and leave broken/shattered bones.


117 posted on 02/26/2018 3:20:18 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

They were very lucky!


118 posted on 02/26/2018 3:26:47 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Kaslin

Hey, but Superman is faster than a speeding bullet.


119 posted on 02/26/2018 3:33:13 PM PST by grumpygresh (When will Soros be brought to justice? Crush the vermin, crush the Left.)
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To: Kaslin

I.Q. Level Minus 3.


120 posted on 02/26/2018 3:34:19 PM PST by Retvet (Retvet)
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