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MSNBC Host: Handgun Bullets Are Ineffective In Stopping School Shooters Because They're Too Slow
Townhall.com ^ | February 26, 2018 | Matt Vespa,

Posted on 02/26/2018 1:34:23 PM PST by Kaslin

Talk about a facepalm moment. Is it the media’s stupidity or stacking sandbags because they know this National Rifle Association initiative could gain traction? You decide. The NRA wants more armed guards in schools. Teachers should be allowed to carry as well. After the tragic Sandy Hook shooting, the school board voted to approve this proposal. This is not an alien concept. A lot of schools have resource officers; Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, the site of the most recent school shooting on February 14, had such officers. They failed to engage the shooter, Nikolas Cruz. Scores of teachers in Ohio are signing up for gun training courses to obtain their concealed carry permits. So, since the NRA is akin to ISIS in the minds of the liberal media, what do you do? Well, if you’re MSNBC, apparently it’s to make the argument that handguns aren’t effective in stopping shooters, who are armed with rifles, because the bullets from pistols are too slow.  I will repeat that: handgun ammunition travels so slow that its ineffective at stopping someone armed with a rifle (via Daily Caller):

MSNBC anchors are claiming that teachers armed with handguns would be unable to stop a school shooter because rifles shoot “three times faster.”

Anchor Lawrence O’Donnell said on his show Thursday night that “a bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun…and yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter.”

Lawrence: A bullet fired from an AR-15 travels 3x faster than one from a handgun.

And yet the president and the NRA think giving teachers guns will stop a school shooter https://t.co/heze69kRDU— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 23, 2018

Yeah, there is a difference, but we’re talking tenths of a second here. Also, veteran J.R. Salzman seemed confused with this narrative: didn’t two Capitol Police officers stop a shooter from assassinating scores of Republicans in Alexandria as they were practicing for the annual congressional baseball game? Uh, yeah—they did. They confronted the shooter, they engaged him; he turned out to be a Bernie Sanders supporter, and they neutralized the threat. House Majority Whip Steve Scalise (R-LA) was almost killed in the attack. 

Where did this BS narrative come from that you can’t stop a rifle with a handgun? When has that ever been a thing? Are people’s memories really so short they don’t remember Capital Police stopping a Bernie bro with an SKS shooting at congressman on a baseball field?— J.R. Salzman (@jrsalzman) February 25, 2018

This is the reason why the media will always lose the Second Amendment fight. Millions of Americans own firearms. They know the caliber, they know its capabilities, and they also know what the proper terminology is (i.e. automatic vs. semiautomatic). I’m not talking super technical gunsmith jargon, just basic details about the gun. They know what they have and the media’s pervasive failure to learn what they’re talking about will never allow them to win over Americans they need to change the nature of gun politics. That’s because the alternative floated by the Left is straight up gun confiscation, evisceration of the Second Amendment, and the stripping of American civil rights. That’s also another reason why they’ll never win. We know their game. It’s this type of trash peddled by MSNBC that makes for great entertainment. 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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1 posted on 02/26/2018 1:34:24 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Sounds like MSNBC has been watching too many Warner Brothers cartoons featuring bullets slowing down or stopping, lol.


2 posted on 02/26/2018 1:35:30 PM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: Kaslin

These people are too stupid for words.


3 posted on 02/26/2018 1:36:31 PM PST by grimalkin (You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible. - T. Sowell)
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To: Kaslin

What an idiot. Like to see him dodge a well placed round. Jeepers, we let this fool “preach” to the masses?


4 posted on 02/26/2018 1:36:50 PM PST by Kudsman ( Anyone to the Right of Stalin is a Far Right Wing candidate to the Far Left Wing Media.)
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To: Kaslin

Degrees in Journalism and Education are two of the dumbest groups of people.


5 posted on 02/26/2018 1:37:05 PM PST by CodeToad (Dr. Spock was an idiot!)
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To: Kaslin

Doesn’t much matter if the truck that hits you is going 30 mph or 90 mph, you are still gonna die.


6 posted on 02/26/2018 1:37:12 PM PST by RatRipper (Unindicted co-conspirators: the Mainstream Media and the Democratic Party)
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To: Kaslin

Lawrence. I knew it was his turn to say something really stupid. Are the bullets made from ACME manufacturing you retard? He does this weekly folks.


7 posted on 02/26/2018 1:37:24 PM PST by max americana (Fired libtard employees 9 consecutive times at every election since 08'. I hope all liberals die.)
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To: Kaslin

Then giving cops service pistols is like giving them slingshots.

Put away your pistols people, Apparently everyone in America needs an AR-15 for self defense.


8 posted on 02/26/2018 1:38:17 PM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping list.)
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To: RatRipper

Or if you’re hit with a Fiat or F-350.

We’re back to caliber wars again.


9 posted on 02/26/2018 1:38:22 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (This country & world is living on borrowed time (Luke 17:26-27))
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To: Kaslin

1,000 fps means a bullet travels 50 feet in 0.05 seconds.

2,600 fps means a bullet travels 50 feet in 0.02 seconds.

There is no human alive who could dodge a bullet traveling at either speed.

Lawrence O’Donnell is a moron.


10 posted on 02/26/2018 1:38:50 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: OttawaFreeper
Dum-dums:

Dumb-dumb:


11 posted on 02/26/2018 1:39:16 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Kaslin

Try to go easy on Mr. O’Donnell. He repeats what he hears and all he hears is not heard by others.


12 posted on 02/26/2018 1:39:32 PM PST by allendale (.)
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To: Kaslin

But we should ban handguns because their only purpose is to kill people.


13 posted on 02/26/2018 1:39:33 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: Kaslin
Anchor Lawrence O’Donnell

Speaking of slow.

14 posted on 02/26/2018 1:39:40 PM PST by Flick Lives
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To: Kaslin
Where did this BS narrative come from that you can’t stop a rifle with a handgun? When has that ever been a thing?

It's all they have, shallow ridiculous arguments that don't stand up to the light of day or to any informed debate.

15 posted on 02/26/2018 1:39:42 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: OttawaFreeper
Sounds like MSNBC has been watching too many Warner Brothers cartoons featuring bullets slowing down or stopping, lol.

Yep, as long as you don't use the Coyotes ACME supplier, you should be good to go.

16 posted on 02/26/2018 1:39:44 PM PST by redcatcherb412 (Emerged intact.)
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To: Kaslin
p07

Turn off the Keanu movies.

17 posted on 02/26/2018 1:40:11 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: CodeToad
Degrees in Journalism and Education are two of the dumbest groups of people.

Absolute fact.

18 posted on 02/26/2018 1:40:16 PM PST by JonPreston
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To: Kaslin

Confusing bullet velocity for stopping power... I’m sorry but a .45 handgun round will stop the bad guy (within short ranges) better than a fast moving .223 any day of the week.


19 posted on 02/26/2018 1:41:05 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: Kaslin

Handgun bullets may be slow, but they are quicker than Broward County Sheriffs.


20 posted on 02/26/2018 1:41:09 PM PST by BeauBo
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