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Object on tracks may be cause of deadly Amtrak derailment
NYPost.com ^ | 12-18-2017 | Bruce Golding and Bob Fredericks

Posted on 12/18/2017 12:35:57 PM PST by servo1969

Monday’s deadly Amtrak train derailment appears to have been caused by an object on the railway, according to a government official briefed on the crash.

A preliminary investigation suggests maintenance problems are unlikely to blame because the incident took place on brand-new tracks, the official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

At least six people were killed and the death toll is expected to rise, the official said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 501; amtrak; derailment; i5; lacey; oregon; portland; seattle
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To: Cold Heart

I see the info now about the 30 mph limit but I didn’t find that earlier, only the 79 mph that is typical of Amtrak other locations not on the NorthEast Corridor.

If limit is actually 30 - 35 them 80 give or take 1 mph is too fast.

Also saw somewhere today in reading on this that the curve was elevated meaning banked to allow higher speeds. Also haven’t run across that info again.

So much misinformation and false information floating around now; how much of what I found earlier is still out there I don’t know but it’s now hard to find, buried, or wiped.

It’s just strange that the rail didn’t roll over from flange forces at a speed over twice what it should have experienced. Until more information is revealed anything I add beyond this is pure speculation.


141 posted on 12/18/2017 8:13:16 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: al_c

Yes, you’re correct. The sequence of reporting was confusing.


142 posted on 12/18/2017 8:17:12 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Cold Heart

Haha. Thanks for reminding me of how glad I am to have left. Ick


143 posted on 12/19/2017 12:13:29 AM PST by MarMema (I now choose to live my life as a heterosexual married woman)
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To: TXnMA

There ya go. Thanks for posting this


144 posted on 12/19/2017 12:15:50 AM PST by MarMema (I now choose to live my life as a heterosexual married woman)
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To: TXnMA

The probable reason that the reporting was confusing from local sources is that Sound Transit and this highly subsidized train run is a sacred cow and jealously protected by our local media. I heard about this about 10 minutes after it happened. I immediately said to my wife that this was most likely a giant screw up by someone.

The more details that came in... the more I knew my immediate reaction was correct.


145 posted on 12/19/2017 12:16:32 AM PST by fireman15
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To: crosdaddy

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Amtrak-188-Engineer-Brandon-Bostian-Court-Hearing-443908163.html

Perp was let off.


146 posted on 12/19/2017 6:24:42 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: crosdaddy

https://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2015/06/30/my-friend-brandon-bostian-the-amtrak-188-engineer


147 posted on 12/19/2017 6:30:53 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: TXnMA
".. that passenger car (under the bridge, upside down) was located .. "

I think the rail car under the viaduct came off the left (in the train's direction of travel) side of the track, got hit by the container carrying tractor-trailer truck and turned upside down.

It was likely just in front of the car dangling off the left side of the viaduct. So, it was likely the third car in front of the rear engine and a car that likely contains a generator.

148 posted on 12/19/2017 6:42:27 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Cold Heart
"The moronic news readers were debating whether it was the truck that may have caused the accident. Ch 12 by the way gave out some fake Trump political election news and shortly after had a self ad saying they never gave out fake news."

Journalists are apparently not required to take physics and logic classes. It would explain why they tell stories rather than give reports and are full of Fake News.

149 posted on 12/19/2017 6:49:08 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: NoCmpromiz

Interesting pic. Thanks for posting.

What are those devices attached to each of the continuously welded rails at just about the point of departure?


150 posted on 12/19/2017 6:53:59 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: NoCmpromiz

This mornings news, NTSB says train was going 80 in a 30 curve.


151 posted on 12/19/2017 7:49:59 AM PST by Cold Heart
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To: aumrl

I think they have recently purchased new locomotives and refurbished the cars.


152 posted on 12/19/2017 9:01:19 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Cold Heart

That’s not a good thing.


153 posted on 12/19/2017 10:37:41 AM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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