Object on tracks may be cause of deadly Amtrak derailment

NYPost.com ^ | 12-18-2017 | Bruce Golding and Bob Fredericks

[servo1969]

Monday’s deadly Amtrak train derailment appears to have been caused by an object on the railway, according to a government official briefed on the crash.

A preliminary investigation suggests maintenance problems are unlikely to blame because the incident took place on brand-new tracks, the official told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

At least six people were killed and the death toll is expected to rise, the official said.

[MarMema]

Knowing the area extremely well and still in touch with many former coworkers there - I don't believe for one minute that crime is that high.

Average home price is about $300,000. So...got a link for that info?

[MarMema]

Living in Lacey, WA Gie DG Send Message View Profile Star Rating 6/14/2012 My husband is in the military and so we move from place to place. Lacey is about 20 minutes drive from Joint Base Lewis Mcchord. The area is really nice because it is a new development. Lots of brand new houses at the same time very quiet place to live in. The crime rate is almost non existent although there are still some. How many times have I left the garage door opened unintentionally and when I came back, my house is still intact.Right now, the place is booming. They are currently building a huge out patient clinic in the neighnorhood that would generate a lot of jobs. There are shopping places like Costco, Safeway, Walmart all within minutes away. The mall is in Olympia which is probably a good 20 minutes drive. There is a shopping outlet 30 minutes away. Portland, Oregon is a mere 2 and a half hours away. It is 40 minutes away from Seattle, WA the bigest city in this state. And there is Tacoma, WA another city with shopping centers etc. If you love the outdoors, WA is definitely a nice place to live in. So many places to hike, ride your bike, kayak, run, camp. A good place for family definitely. What amazes me is how friendly the people are here.

[tinyowl]

We need to ban objects, and where a person has a demonstrable need to possess an object, he should have to register it.

[MarMema]

It was a first run for a high speed train. A first run!!

They are dufus heads, though not as bad as California.

Someone screwed up.

They had just laid some new tracks or something to convert it to high speed.

All the evidence points to them not being prepared properly for a high speed train, and knowing Washingtonians, rushing into it so they could look liberal-cool to the rest of the country.

No sabotage. Just Washingtonian liberals.

[Meet the New Boss]

The fact that the derailment happened to occur at the crossing point of an interstate highway does suggest sabotage in which the hope was to damage two major transportation arteries and injure more people with a single act.

[MarMema]

Read through the thread. It’s not sabotage.

[Publius]

No. not high speed. Just regular speed.

The journalists who write this stuff don't know diddlysquat about railroads.

Simulated runs were done for weeks to make sure the line was safe and that the posted speed limits were right for the line.

[MarMema]

You know what is a scary place is Lakewood, where the mayor said this would happen.

Although parts of it are ok and I have gone to an oral surgeon there and used to take my kids to the YMCA there years ago...it can be a shoot 'em up kinda town.

[Cold Heart]

www.areavibes.comlacey-wa/crime/

search any city with the word crime and you will get the results from various sites which get their info from US govt

[Meet the New Boss]

I did read the thread. Your feeling that it was just a typical liberal screw-up may turn out to be correct, but that does make it so or rule out sabotage until we have the results of an investigation.

[Hostage]

I think it was related to the Antifa admission that they had poured concrete on the tracks to stop trains that were transporting oil from ‘fracking’ fields.

I could be wrong but the Antifa admitted to the sabotage but tried to temper their crime with a defense that they had called the railway workers office to alert them. Someone remarked they forgot to inform Amtrak.

[Hostage]

Did you hear about the Antifa incident today in this same timeframe?

[rktman]

Looked like the "lead" engine ended up south bound on I-5 with what looked like two follow engines still on the tracks. Of course I could be full of 🐂 💩 too. Just my look from tv shots.

[Bonemaker]

“How about Antifa?
That’s my guess. Terrorist organization. “

Don’t tell Jeff...as if it would make any difference.

[21twelve]

Wow - with all of those cars and only 77 passengers on board. For once I’m glad that an Amtrak train is so lightly loaded. And they wonder why they lose money.

RIP to the dead, but I can only imagine some of the horrific injuries that some of the survivors will have to deal with.

[TigersEye]

Olympia, WA: Train Tracks Sabotaged To Stop Fracking Equipment [April 21st, 2017]

Are you referring to the story in that thread ... that happened last April?

[TXnMA]

THANK YOU! Those are the best "overview" photos I've seen -- and I've looked at lots of them!

For one thing, they show the soil disturbances / scatter clues as to where units "off-roaded"...

(Kudos to the LEOs -- they even strung yellow "Police Line" tape -- outlining and protecting the "dirt fan" on the I-5 pavement -- on the north side of the bridge...)

I'm working on a Google Earth "overlay" of photos -- but, that's now just for my own interest, since we already know why the accident occurred...

The main engine's path is obvious. Now, I'm trying to figure out where in the "consist" that passenger car (under the bridge, upside down) was located -- and how it got there ...without knocking that light pole down...

[TXnMA]

So what? Google Earth shows that curve continuing across the bridge... NBD...

[Paladin2]

It’s a recent change in track layout to improve speed capability. It was done to prepare for the route change.

[NoCmpromiz]

Easy to fabricate. And you can bet they wouldn’t paint it yellow. Or hang the blue MOW flag on it..