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UPS loses family's $846,000 inheritance
cbc.ca ^ | December 14, 2017 | John Lancaster

Posted on 12/14/2017 2:31:57 PM PST by grundle

An Ontario family is locked in a lengthy, three-way David vs. Goliaths battle after courier company UPS lost a bank draft worth more than $846,000 and TD Canada Trust — the bank that issued it — appears to be in no rush to issue a new one.

"It was a total surprise" Lorette Taylor told CBC News this week about the ordeal. "Never in my wildest imagination did I think something like this would happen."

Taylor and her husband John say they're at their wit's ends trying to recover the money.

It all started last February when Taylor was finalizing details of her father's will. She was tasked with disbursing the inheritances to her sister and brother.

She and John went to their local TD Canada Trust branch, on Brant Street in Burlington, Ont., to get certified cheques.

"They said a bank draft was more appropriate," for that amount of money, Taylor said.

The couple say they also asked bank staff what kind of provisions were in place in the unlikely event the draft was lost or stolen.

"I was told there were procedures to deal with that," John said. He added they were told they would just, "fill out some documentation and a new draft would be issued."

Now, almost 10 months later, the family is still waiting for their money.

Last seen in Concord

The $846,648.46 was for Lorette's brother, Louis Paul Hebert, who lives outside Cornwall, Ont. — some 440 kilometres from the family's lawyer's office in Georgetown. He hired UPS to ship the bank draft to a nearby UPS store.

"I'm waiting at the UPS store, around 3 p.m. because that's when they said the guys came in, nothing shows up" he told CBC News. "I came back in the evening. Nothing shows up… and I'm wondering 'What's happened to my inheritance?'"

Hebert called UPS.

Documents provided by the family show UPS picked up the bank draft as planned. The envelope made it to the UPS distribution centre on Steeles Avenue West in Concord, north of Toronto.

After that, no one knows what happened to it.

"I should have just driven [to the lawyer's office]. It's something I kick myself in the rear over everyday," Hebert said.

UPS spokeswoman Nirali Raval declined to answer specific questions from CBC Toronto. But in an email she wrote, "While UPS' service is excellent in our industry, we are unfortunately not perfect. Occasionally, the loss of a package does occur."

Raval added: "Our records indicate that our team followed UPS protocol and an exhaustive search for this package was completed by our Operations and Security teams. Unfortunately, we were unable to locate the package."

UPS refunded the $32 it charged Hebert to ship the bank draft. UPS also sent him a letter apologizing, "for any inconvenience."

As Hebert put it, "That's nice of them to say, but it doesn't solve my problems." 'Unbelievable frustration'

Lorette says there's been, "many a night of lost sleep, and gnashing of teeth and anger. Frustration, unbelievable frustration."

In February — less than two weeks after UPS lost the bank draft — a TD branch representative emailed the Taylors to assure them, "there is a process for cancelling the draft."

ut two days later, the bank said they would only get their money if they signed an indemnity agreement. Essentially, the bank wanted to hold Lorette — the executor of her father's estate — liable for life if the draft was cashed illegally.

"It also said that if something happened to me, for example, my children and my heirs and my spouse and my executor would have to pay this debt," she said. "Well, I didn't really want to sign this."

But with no other option, she did.

Then, she says, TD Canada Trust ignored the agreement.

"They never paid anyone a dime," she said.

In fact the bank came back with even more demands. It wanted to put a lien on the Taylors' home or force the family to buy GICs in the full amount of the bank draft. The lien or GICs would have to be in place for at least three years.

The Taylors say all of the onus to protect the bank would have been put on them; 40-year customers of the bank.

Lorette refused.

"If the bank really wants indemnity," she says, "then UPS should sign it."

TD Canada Trust declined to answer specific questions from CBC News. But in an email spokeswoman Cheryl Ficker wrote: "Bank drafts do not expire, and once the draft is issued, the funds are guaranteed for payment. They should be treated as though they are cash.

"In situations where a bank draft is lost or stolen, before we can agree to a replacement or reimbursement we need appropriate security to be in place. Examples of security requirements could include an Indemnity Agreement signed by the parties involved and a surety bond or GIC held for a period of three years," she added.

The Taylors say TD Bank has since reached out to the family's lawyer offering a resolution with less onerous conditions, but no deal has yet been reached. Still in TD account

In the meantime, 10 months since the draft was issued, Hebert still hasn't received a penny of his money.

"TD has the money" he said. "The money is actually sitting in an account with TD. Nothing has been stolen. It's there. That's my inheritance."

Hebert, 61, says he's now facing financial insecurity. He said his credit cards are maxed out and he has no source of income.

"I would have been debt free. My money would have been invested" he said. "I would have been retired."

Hebert calls the situation "a screw up, a massive screw up where the big guys look after themselves."


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1 posted on 12/14/2017 2:31:57 PM PST by grundle
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To: grundle

What can Brown do TO you?...................


2 posted on 12/14/2017 2:34:55 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: grundle

With all that barcode technology with scanning when being picked up to every transfer center to delivery? Something’s wrong Dano.


3 posted on 12/14/2017 2:35:34 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: grundle

So get the bank to cancel the check, and issue a new one - and this time, go pick it up in person, ya lunkhead.


4 posted on 12/14/2017 2:36:02 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: grundle

Should have wired it from bank top bank.


5 posted on 12/14/2017 2:36:58 PM PST by IC Ken
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To: grundle

UPS loses packages all the time. The envelope was not stolen, it was lost.

Its pretty clear to me its the BANK - they are sitting on the money, and don’t want to give it back.


6 posted on 12/14/2017 2:37:26 PM PST by PGR88
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To: grundle

Given the documentation mentioned, the carrier UPS is liable.

UPS should be sued for the value of the lost check plus interest and damages.

In the language of the trade, the check is free and astray..... lost.


7 posted on 12/14/2017 2:39:45 PM PST by Thibodeaux (2018 is looking good)
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To: Windflier

The banks not willing to do that dude.


8 posted on 12/14/2017 2:40:55 PM PST by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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To: grundle

This situation is beyond stupid but I do hope they figure out how to get their money.


9 posted on 12/14/2017 2:41:06 PM PST by plain talk
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To: Red Badger

I stopped using Brown they were so bad.

Closed my commercial account and all.

They were losing top priority overnight shipments for me that contained medical diagnostic imaging necessary for critical care treatment decisions.

FEDEX has been wonderful.


10 posted on 12/14/2017 2:41:16 PM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: grundle

Related...

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11 posted on 12/14/2017 2:41:42 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (MAGA!)
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To: Windflier

Apparently you didn’t read the article. The Bank claims the certified check is the equivalent to cash, and can’t be cancelled.

I don’t believe a bank would get away with this in America. Even the request for indemnity. But who knows what Canada’s laws on this subject are? Wait—they should see a Canadian attorney!


12 posted on 12/14/2017 2:42:18 PM PST by TheConservator ("The worst form of inequality is to try to make unequal things equal." -- Aristotle)
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To: grundle

What would you do with your blog if someone gave you a hundred dollars?


13 posted on 12/14/2017 2:42:43 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: grundle

But delivering a $1,000 jigsaw puzzle is a piece of cake for them.


14 posted on 12/14/2017 2:43:10 PM PST by BBB333 (The Power Of Trump Compels You!)
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To: grundle

Paging Jamie Colby


15 posted on 12/14/2017 2:43:24 PM PST by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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To: grundle

Wow. This is twice in one afternoon they lost that inheritance.


16 posted on 12/14/2017 2:44:35 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: TheConservator
Apparently you didn’t read the article. The Bank claims the certified check is the equivalent to cash, and can’t be cancelled.


17 posted on 12/14/2017 2:44:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: grundle

For that much money I would pick the check up myself or have the money wired. But, these sound like very unsophisticated people.


18 posted on 12/14/2017 2:45:28 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Thibodeaux

Some effed-up turf battle at the bank. How hard is it to stop a huge check?

They deserve the embarrassment at the bank.


19 posted on 12/14/2017 2:45:30 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: humblegunner

I bet he’d buy some time on a boobie playtime webcam site thats what I would do


20 posted on 12/14/2017 2:46:20 PM PST by al baby (May the Forceps be with you Hi Mom Its a Joke friends)
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