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Report: Trump continues to question Obama's birth certificate
CNN ^ | 11/29/17 | Sophie Tatum and Jim Acosta

Posted on 11/29/2017 5:32:11 PM PST by Seizethecarp

President Donald Trump questioned the politics of his decision to finally acknowledge former President Barack Obama was born in the US, which he did late during the campaign in 2016, according to a source close to the White House.

The source said that shortly after he made the statement, Trump told aides that he would have done better in the polls had he continued to stand his ground on the birth certificate issue.

Trump has continued to question the legitimacy of Obama's birth certificate during private conversations in recent months, The New York Times reported Tuesday, citing advisers who discussed Trump's statements.

Trump still questioning Obama's birthplace is just one of several instances The Times pointed to as examples of the President's reliance on "manufactured facts," as the newspaper reported Tuesday.

One sitting US senator quoted by the Times, "who listened as the President revived his doubts" about the issue, "chuckled" when speaking about what was said. Trump "has had a hard time letting go of his claim that Mr. Obama was not born in the United States," the senator, who "asked not to be named to discuss private conversations," told The New York Times.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; fakenews; naturalborncitizen; obama; sheriffarpaio; trump; trumpobama; trumpobamabc
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To: hecticskeptic

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141 posted on 12/03/2017 6:07:14 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

should have been “to HIDE the fact that the LaJolla was moved into the area right before this water landing occurred”


142 posted on 12/03/2017 6:07:21 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

My Soros-funded Fuddy mannequin is laughing at your “evidence”.


143 posted on 12/03/2017 6:09:04 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: butterdezillion

How interesting. I was able to post this post just fine, but I got this when I tried posting on a different thread:

This site can’t be reached

The webpage at http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/post might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
ERR_INSUFFICIENT_RESOURCES

Here’s what I’m trying to post there:

Oh, well, shoot, seems like the back arrows there aren’t working now. They worked 3 times just a little bit ago, showing me the post I was trying to post.

Oh, well, I remember what I was trying to say. I was trying to add to my latest post: Should have been “to HIDE THE FACT that the LaJolla was moved into the area right before this water landing occurred.

Funny.


144 posted on 12/03/2017 6:12:12 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

This is just like what happened when I posted the “What Do You See? Part Two” thread. I have to post here in order to respond. Why do the moderators here keep doing this when it comes to the Fuddy story?

Here is a close reiteration of what I was trying to post over there. Just a quick run-through because I should be getting ready to teach Sunday school.

My version of “substance”:

FOIA requests and responses, including those claiming (first) that records were destroyed and (later) that no records were gathered on a fatal commercial airline crash... claiming (first) that there were no watercraft in the area at the time and then (later) the disclosure of 2 previously-unknown watercraft in the area, but with the ZULU notation removed to hide the fact that the LaJolla was moved into the area right before this water landing occurred.

Analysis of audio recordings showing the engine running normally up to splashdown. Photographic proof that the engine was receiving fuel normally at the very time that the pilot claimed the engine had stopped.

Photographic evidence of people standing in the water, including Keith Yamamoto who was standing right next to Fuddy as she supposedly panicked so much she gave herself an arrhythmia.

Photographic evidence of the nosepiece of the salvaged plane with protruding screws, contrasted with photos of N687MA’s nosepiece before the crash, having RECESSED screws.

Photographic evidence of Fuddy in a fully-inflated adult lifejacket, contrasting with the FOID records showing the photo of the infant life jacket the USCG retrieved from the water and supposedly removed from Fuddy - that life jacket having one CO2 cartridge still un-pierced.

Photographic evidence of electronic communications equipment in the water, including a phallus-shaped device that was used by one of the witnesses. That witness’ husband has now attacked our book, even though he has not bought a copy of the book so he doesn’t even know what evidence we have.

Photographic evidence of the seal on the AZ “letter of verification” next to a ruler showing a 2 1/4” seal, and a photo of an actual certified COLB next to a ruler showing Onaka’s seal as 1 5/8”. We know FOR A FACT that the seal on the AZ verification is the director’s official seal. And we know from the statute itself that the official (1 1/4” embossed) seal of the HDOH is authorized to be used for certifications NEXT TO THE SIGNATURE OF THE DIRECTOR. Fuddy used that seal and did not include her signature as required by statute.

These are facts. I am not the one posting ninja frog cartoons. I am posting factual evidence, and you refuse to respond. You are so obvious.

And the fact that I can’t post this on the thread where you are allowed to lie about me all over the place.... also speaks volumes.


145 posted on 12/03/2017 6:35:04 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
And the fact that I can’t post this on the thread

You just did, goofus.

146 posted on 12/03/2017 6:36:32 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Many times, after C&P’ing the error message I kept getting on my screen - a message I didn’t get before I tried posting those things, and haven’t gotten since.

What I have given is factual evidence. You refuse to address it. You are a troll.


147 posted on 12/03/2017 6:56:40 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
What I have given is factual evidence. You refuse to address it.

It's what YOU call evidence.. dug up from internet conspiracy blogs no doubt.

You are a troll.

At least the nefarious black-hatted evil forces aren't after me.


148 posted on 12/03/2017 7:00:16 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

In my post I gave just 16 pieces of factual evidence (and I guess I forgot the one about topographical maps of the area, so that would be 17). Which of those is made up? FOIA responses? Photos? Topographical map? Audio recordings?

That’s called “evidence”. Not cartoon frogmen and tinfoil-hat graphics.

You NEVER deal with evidence. You only deal with ad-hominems.

You wouldn’t know a piece of evidence if it hit you in the face.


149 posted on 12/03/2017 7:07:52 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
You NEVER deal with evidence.

I never deal with conspiracy crap.

What you do is begin with a premise, then cherry pick
little factoids (true or not) which support your premise.

This is backward.

I know you believe in your little fan-fictions but you can't expect normal people to buy into your fantasies.

150 posted on 12/03/2017 7:24:39 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: butterdezillion; humblegunner

“Photographic evidence of people standing in the water, including Keith Yamamoto who was standing right next to Fuddy”

There is no evidence of people standing in the water. There is evidence of people using the seat cushions as floatation devices to lift themselves out of the water.

“Onaka’s seal”

There is no such thing. There is a reduced version of the official seal. And there is nothing in the statute that prevents Dr. Onaka from using the full size official seal. But you knew that.

BTW, are you guys still insisting that the manikin was passed around the cabin? And that the floating hand can only be a manikin’s hand?


151 posted on 12/03/2017 8:20:50 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: Fantasywriter

I’m not even slightly surprised that you don’t understand the significance of your speculation on what Zullo said on Friday.


152 posted on 12/03/2017 8:26:34 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

I’ve noticed something with you. Like your idol, Obama, you need to constantly reassure yourself that you are smart. Since you don’t fare well in factual, rational debate, you [also like Obama] fall back on Alinsky tactics. You call other people stupid. Even when you are proven to be 100% wrong, you never admit it. And then there’s your petty, childish and pathetic game of, ‘I know something you don’t know.’ Somewhere in this world there may be someone who is impressed by that silliness, but it isn’t me.

Your approach fails with me for three reasons. A, if you’re going to call people stupid, you need to command a certain level of respect re your own intellect. Otherwise it’s like a chubby, knock-kneed guy calling Usain Bolt, ‘Slow.’ What is Bolt supposed to do? Die laughing?

B, when it comes to calling me personally stupid, that would be a lot more effective if I didn’t know my own IQ. But I do know it. My high school guidance counselor told it to me when he was trying to talk me into skipping the rest of high school and going straight to college. Ever since that day, I have had no regard for anyone who tries to play the, ‘I’m smarter than you,’ game. Odds are 99.9 that you aren’t.

C, you have demonstrated yourself to be dishonest again and again. I can’t take dishonest people serously. A person doesn’t have to be a genius to be honest. They don’t have to be highly educated or broadly accomplished. All they need is integrity. Once a person makes the decision to sacrifice their own integrity, they needn’t expect deference from anyone else.


153 posted on 12/03/2017 9:12:40 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Wow - your high school guidance counselor. Hahaha


154 posted on 12/03/2017 9:32:38 AM PST by 4Zoltan
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To: 4Zoltan

My hi-school guidance counselor was magnificent. When he first tried to talk me into skipping the rest of high school and going straight into college, I kept jabbering about my friends. He needed a way to get my attention. Needless to say, he found it. After he revealed my IQ, my entire outlook changed.

The counselor was a very good man; I was fortunate to have such an excellent resource.


155 posted on 12/03/2017 9:46:31 AM PST by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Inernet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: 4Zoltan

Keith Yamamoto was not using a seat cushion. And if he was using a seat cushion and watched Fuddy give herself an arrhythmia from panic, while he sat on a seat cushion right next to her, then he should be charged with something.

But then, the USCG never picked out of the water the Fuddy we see next to Yamamoto. They picked up “somebody” in an infant lifejacket with one CO2 chamber unpierced.

And we long ago agreed that the floating hand could possibly have been the other person whose shoe was seen in one of the frames.

The statute says that the official 1 1/4” embossed seal may be used NEXT TO THE DIRECTOR’S SIGNATURE to certify documents. You don’t seem to recognize what is the big deal. The big deal is that Fuddy’s signature is not on that verification, when the statute says that seal is to be used for certifications NEXT TO HER SIGNATURE. That is in the statute, flat-out.

And Onaka’s seal is NOT a reduced version of the official seal. Onaka’s seal has dots between the upper and lower banks of words around the perimeter. The official DOH seal is required to have stars there. And the AZ “letter of verification” seal has stars. It is Fuddy’s seal, only authorized to be used for certifications NEXT TO HER SIGNATURE.


156 posted on 12/03/2017 10:53:06 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: humblegunner

Which of the 17 pieces of factual evidence that I listed - a very small portion out of the total number of similar pieces of evidence - is not factual evidence?

And why do you refuse to address them?

You are so blatantly a troll that I’m actually embarrassed for you.


157 posted on 12/03/2017 11:06:43 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion
Which of the 17 pieces of factual evidence that I listed

See.. you keep calling it "evidence" but most of it is likely just made-up blog crap.

What are the SOURCES of this "evidence"?

How is it PROVEN that people were standing in the water?

Or is it just SUPPOSED that people were standing in the water but you call it "evidence"?

Further, your past history of blatant nuttery casts doubt
on any so-called "evidence" you may present. That's life.

A crack-head may claim to no longer be a crack-head and
that he's turned his life around, but you're never going
to loan him money, ever. Because he has a history of being a crack-head.

158 posted on 12/03/2017 11:13:37 AM PST by humblegunner
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To: humblegunner

Photos from the video the NTSB got from Ferdinand Puentes. Factual evidence, or not?

Photos that the NTSB gave Bruce Briley to put in his book. Factual evidence or not?

Photos from the NTSB report?

Photos taken of the AZ letter of verification next to a ruler? Photos taken of a genuine certified COLB next to a ruler?

Audio recordings from the Puentes video?

The official FAA case file for this event? Factual evidence, or not?

FOIA requests and their legal responses. Factual evidence, or not?

Topographical maps of the area? Factual evidence, or not?

These are not cartoon frogmen, which is the best you’ve ever even tried to offer. Tell me which of these kinds of evidence is not “evidence” and why.


159 posted on 12/03/2017 11:20:14 AM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

The photos may be real, what you “see” in them is fantasy.

Further, I’m not that interested in the minutia of your
fan-fiction dementia. The overall body of “work” is flawed
due to your supposition and assumption of facts not in evidence.

It’s bunk because it’s based on a bunk premise.

And if I’m a troll, then you’re a dollar-store Orly Taitz wanna-be.
(And she was a nutcase too.)

Whee! Now we’re ALL calling names!


160 posted on 12/03/2017 11:25:31 AM PST by humblegunner
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