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Is There Any Protection for Men Who Are Falsely Accused of Sexual Harassment?

Posted on 11/28/2017 7:29:06 AM PST by pinochet

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To: pinochet
Modern feminism is about maximizing female sexual possibilities and minimizing men's. The old 80/20 dating rule is part of it.

All rules and laws that govern us are based on this inclination.

41 posted on 11/28/2017 8:10:32 AM PST by deadrock
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To: usconservative

Your point is well taken. You met the man and observed him over time. I never met him so all I had was what I assumed and heard about him. You say you knew something wasn’t right about him - (perhaps your gaydar was tilting red).


42 posted on 11/28/2017 8:14:59 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: pinochet

In a few words, very little if it gets to court depending on the state.

On the left coast, you are presumed guilty. Full stop.


43 posted on 11/28/2017 8:16:43 AM PST by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: pinochet

I heard about Emily Lindin’s post.

Truly horrific!


44 posted on 11/28/2017 8:18:35 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: sauropod

bkmk


45 posted on 11/28/2017 8:23:43 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: pinochet

The answer is “No.” We are in an era when the hive is being purged of the “different ones.” There is no defense when a purge of the hive is taking place.

Oddly enough, I gained that observation of humanity when I was about eight years old, watching a British sci-fi movie called “Five Million Years to Earth.”


46 posted on 11/28/2017 8:26:51 AM PST by henkster
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To: pinochet
It is time that American men started to stand up for themselves.

What would that look like?

47 posted on 11/28/2017 8:29:53 AM PST by gogeo (Leftists are a parasite that destroys the host.)
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To: usconservative
True, but here is my take on this based on some personal observations: Until the evidence is credible to you, give the man (generically; the accusation may not be sexual, and/or the accused may be female) the presumption of innocence.

The longer ago it took place, the less credibility the accusation has. If it wasn't important 40 years ago to you,; it's not important to me now. Unless you have really overwhelming evidence.

Finally, which is worse, documented and admitted support for abortion (60 million victims and counting since RvW), or unsubstantiated allegations from 40 years ago? Also, remember that except for one instance, the alleged conduct was legal. I'm not even sure about the 14 year old.

48 posted on 11/28/2017 8:30:16 AM PST by chesley (What is life but a long dialog with imbeciles? - Pierre Ryckmans)
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To: pinochet

False Accusers that fear for their lives might not accuse


49 posted on 11/28/2017 8:31:09 AM PST by Thibodeaux (whites seem to actually be supreme)
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To: pinochet

The best defense mechanism is to work in a job that women generally don’t like to do. :-)


50 posted on 11/28/2017 8:34:56 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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To: pke

In divorce cases ... “Men are always presumed guilty until proven innocent. “

... except in most cases the accusations seem to end after paying out more in both alimony and the property division. Child support in many jurisdictions is based on income tables, etc etc. (There are ways however to eek out more $ in child support, or limit the father’s child custody - another battleground.)

I am not aware (though it may happen) where in the divorce case the accuser agrees to remove each and every false accusation from their pleadings/filings, and then said documents are so amended to remove the accusations. One courthouse lawyer explained it to me - Everyone knows divorce case pleadings are filled with lies; there would be nothing left if they were all removed. Since amending filings is not done, the falsehoods remain in the public record, in perpetuity. The presumed guilt endures, and may be used against the accused at some point in the future should it become necessary - e.g. a certain politician running for office. Bottom line - many men are not proven innocent in divorce cases.


51 posted on 11/28/2017 8:38:05 AM PST by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: OrangeHoof

“Men really just have one counterweapon - MGTOW. Oh, and another - they still earn more money on average.”


A couple of comments:

1) The MGTOW (the internet is wonderful, I had no idea what it meant before) ONLY works before an accusation. Once that is made (which is the subject of this thread), then it is of little use.

2) A wise man once said, “If it flies, floats or f&*#s, its cheaper to rent than buy.”

3) Western men need to MGTOW very quickly and in large numbers, before it is too late. Let legions of women be childless and husbandless into their old age, and those in their 20s and 30s understand that this is THEIR fate if the undue heat isn’t taken off of men, and then maybe this crap will stop. Oh, and men HAVE to stop voting for ANY Democrat, or even moderate Republicans that back this kind of crap up with their votes.


52 posted on 11/28/2017 8:54:09 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Personal Responsibility
If you saw it on video then you know what happened.

only after forensic analysis has been done to make sure the video has not been tampered with in any form or fashion.

53 posted on 11/28/2017 9:22:01 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: Ancesthntr

The only problem I see with point 3, is that men will create a vacuum which women will fill with government, or at worst immigrants, which may further marginalize men.

Women tend to seek security, and as a voting bloc, tend to vote for giving government more influence and power.

Perhaps a corollary to point 3 is that men, should they choose to marry or enter relationships, should be highly selective of the women with whom they share their lives.


54 posted on 11/28/2017 9:23:51 AM PST by Crolis ("To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it." -GKC)
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To: pinochet

Polygraph test and voice stress tests.


55 posted on 11/28/2017 9:30:02 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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To: Vermont Lt

I followed the Pence rule
never find yourself alone with any female.


56 posted on 11/28/2017 9:33:13 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Vermont Lt

I followed the Pence rule
never find yourself alone with any female.


57 posted on 11/28/2017 9:33:44 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: NorthMountain
...the accuser must bear the burden of proof, and must be viewed with greater skepticism than the accused.

Correct!

58 posted on 11/28/2017 9:34:58 AM PST by Always A Marine
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To: pinochet

Even worse is an accusation of child abuse. There is simply no defense that will remove the stigma of an accusation.


59 posted on 11/28/2017 9:51:21 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: OrangeHoof

“Men really just have one counterweapon - MGTOW.”

That’s the opposite of what men need to do. Mike Pence is the example of how to do it right. He entered into a lifelong, monogamous marriage and avoids even the appearance of impropriety.

False accusations do not need to have any basis in reality. But a man being perceived as anti-women is not going to go in his favor when false accusations happen.


60 posted on 11/28/2017 9:56:35 AM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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